The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Viking]

For those of you worried I've offended HFN: it's a joke. The joke is actually on me. HFN has accomplished 1mm times more good than I did by holding EVERY single leadership position on a Mission (booyah)

[SeattleUte]

Please... You were invited. You just chose to big-time us for some classier guests.

I'm sure PAC had some friends there he's had at least 50 years.

[SeattleUte]

They're very busy with the NCAA tournament right now. Wait, maybe Scott has some free time to reconsider!

No. They've been busy lobbying the selection committee to embarrass that atheist smarty pants conference on the West Coast.

[PolyCougar]

No. They've been busy lobbying the selection committee to embarrass that atheist smarty pants conference on the West Coast.

Ha... I still like this guy.

[Blueintheface]

Ha... I still like this guy.

Who doesn't?

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I'm sure PAC had some friends there he's had at least 50 years.

This is high level stuff. I have a feeling that SU may regain his form from June-August 2010! Like Doc Gooden's 96 year with the Yankees, it wasn't Doc on coke dominating but it was still special.

[PolyCougar]

This is high level stuff. I have a feeling that SU may regain his form from June-August 2010! Like Doc Gooden's 96 year with the Yankees, it wasn't Doc on coke dominating but it was still special.

As a Die-Hard Mets fan (in which you have to be extremely Die-Hard), I'll always love a Doc Gooden reference, even if he was playing for the pinstripes.

[LA Ute]

Victory. :rockon2:

You'll never get that from me. Just wanted you to know.

[YOhio]

You'll never get that from me. Just wanted you to know.

You'll never stop trying to be his friend. Admirable.

[LA Ute]

You'll never stop trying to be his friend. Admirable.

Envy is such a hard-to-tame monster. Fear not; in due time I may yet try to be your friend.

[Pelado]

Spoke with my source in the BYU admin this weekend. When I asked nonchalantly when BYU was going to be in the Big 12, the source adamantly stated that BYU is independent. I left the issue alone after that.

[lambdacoug]

Spoke with my source in the BYU admin this weekend. When I asked nonchalantly when BYU was going to be in the Big 12, the source adamantly stated that BYU is independent. I left the issue alone after that.

Sounds like a non-answer to me. Of course, we're independent, but that doesn't mean we'll remain that way. Though sadly...it probably does.

[Uncle Ted]

Spoke with my source in the BYU admin this weekend. When I asked nonchalantly when BYU was going to be in the Big 12, the source adamantly stated that BYU is independent. I left the issue alone after that.

Independence may not be an option for long when even the Pac-whatever is pushing for a playoff...

Leaders of the Pac-12 Conference agreed in principle Saturday to try to end college football's Bowl Championship Series, proposing its replacement with a playoff system that would allow only conference winners to play for college football's national title.

"I don't hear anyone saying business as usual is acceptable," said Edward Ray, Oregon State University's president and chairman of the Pac-12 universities' CEO group. "We need change."

Though a formal vote was not taken among the top Pac-12 university officials who attended Saturday, they expect that to occur at their next meeting later this year.

[...]

Seeking a playoff is an about-face for the Pac-12, which has killed the idea in the past.

But Ray, who also chairs the executive committee of the NCAA, college athletics' governing body, said there is growing momentum within the Pac-12 and around the country to change college football's postseason.

He said one of the biggest problems is that the BCS uses polls and computers to create a championship-game matchup, leaving other contenders out of the title hunt. The BCS also creates matchups for the four non-championship BCS bowl games.

"Something that doesn't get you into a championship game simply by a vote appeals to people," Ray said.

Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott also criticized the current system.

"The BCS polls have had unintended consequences that are very negative in terms of the culture around football that places a premium on not losing," Scott said. "The BCS system really doesn't have any value around strength of schedule. It's about won-loss records. It's encouraged by coaches and conferences to want to schedule games as easy as possible and to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars and sometimes more to buy games and easy wins."

[...]

The Pac-12's executives are just the latest group to push for a playoff. Following this year's BCS championship game, Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany said he was open to a playoff system, as was NCAA President Mark Emmert.

The reason: In that championship game, the University of Alabama beat Southeastern Conference rival Louisiana State University, even though Alabama did not win the SEC or its division. Some viewed the game as symbolic of flaws in the BCS selection system.

Another playoff proponent is University of Georgia President Michael F. Adams, whose school is in the SEC. He recently speculated there would be a four- or eight-team playoff in 2014-15, after the current four-year BCS contract expires.

Another playoff proponent is University of Georgia President Michael F. Adams, whose school is in the SEC. He recently speculated there would be a four- or eight-team playoff in 2014-15, after the current four-year BCS contract expires.

If the playoff comes then BYU will have no choice but to conference up, IMO.

[Pelado]

Sounds like a non-answer to me. Of course, we're independent, but that doesn't mean we'll remain that way. Though sadly...it probably does.

I thought the same. As forceful as the answer was, I figured it was either because of exasperation from repeatedly addressing the question, or because the source didn't want to say anything about what's really going on.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Independence may not be an option for long when even the Pac-whatever is pushing for a playoff...



If the playoff comes then BYU will have no choice but to conference up, IMO.

Wow. PAC-12 pushing for an end to the BCS? I can't imagine the cognitive dissonance that SU will suffer when he hears this.