The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[CJF]

I guess the question is why would they want to rearrange their whole schedule for BYU? BYU needs the Big 12, not the other way around. There's a good chance BYU is more trouble than they are worth. WHY DOES BYU HAVE TO BE SO WEIRD?????

For a sport like baseball, seems like a total non issue. Double headers are common in college and with rainouts and such, reschedule isn't a big deal. I just don't see Sunday baseball play as any sort of factor in this. It really isn't that big of a deal.

[U-Ute]

BYU doesn't need to give notice to the MWC until September 1, so there is no reason for the Big-12-minus to hurry on these things.

You guys need to pace yourself a bit better. Don't wear yourselves out before the real action starts.

[SCcoug]

That leaves Louisville. My personal feeling is that the two most likely teams to get an invite are Louisville and BYU.

I agree Louisville makes sense. One down side with Louisville is they are in the Big East whose teams are required to give 27 month notice plus $5 million (which isn't a big deal).

[beefytee]

BYU doesn't need to give notice to the MWC until September 1, so there is no reason for the Big-12-minus to hurry on these things.

You guys need to pace yourself a bit better. Don't wear yourselves out before the real action starts.

I heard something to the effect: To keep the Championship game the league needs to be at 12 teams by June 30th.

I have no idea if this is true though.

[U-Ute]

I heard something to the effect: To keep the Championship game the league needs to be at 12 teams by June 30th.

I have no idea if this is true though.

Is that for the 2010 or 2011 season?

[Flystripper]

South Florida is the Boise State of the Southeast only significantly less successful in football, not bloody likely.

When South Florida was added to the Big East I thought WTF, but then I remembered that it was Florida, a state that is part of the college football recruiting godhead. (TX and CA being the other two members) I would imagine that the Big 12 would like to get a crack at recruiting in Florida.

[DapperDan]

Is that for the 2010 or 2011 season?

That would be for the 2011 season. The Big 12's fiscal year starts July 1 and their bylaws seem to indicate that teams have to be members then to count for that year. But that could just be wishful interpretation.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

When South Florida was added to the Big East I thought WTF, but then I remembered that it was Florida, a state that is part of the college football recruiting godhead. (TX and CA being the other two members) I would imagine that the Big 12 would like to get a crack at recruiting in Florida.

Maybe I misspoke. Adding South Florida is probably akin to adding SDSU, Fresno State or San Jose State.

[hyrum]

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Ha.

Looks like utesrus is the one reeling in the big fish.

[Flystripper]

Maybe I misspoke. Adding South Florida is probably akin to adding SDSU, Fresno State or San Jose State.

Except that South Florida has had a better football team than either of those horrible programs of late, but yeah it isn't like I don't see your point, I just think you overstate it a smidgen.

[Coach McGuirk]

This seriously has to be up there on the worst attempts to follow in someones footsteps ever. If not, it is certainly the worst twitter career start.

1. sorry for all the excitement produced last night and the subsequent letdown this morning..seems apparent that Holmoe never went to Dallas about 2 hours ago via web
   
2. 
   Holmoe is on a business/family trip and does have a daughter in Dallas who he may have dropped by to visit on his way to Alaska about 5 hours ago via web
   
3. 
   Just learned that the first Alaskan fishing trip for boosters was this month from the 18th-23rd which correlates with Holmoe's departure about 5 hours ago via web
   
4. 
   should be able to clear all this up tomorrow..seems to me you don't cancel meetings to jaunt up to Alaska to go fishing for a few days about 17 hours ago via web
   
5. 
   Holmoe family insists that Holmoe did not fly out to Dallas..contradicts boosters who he canceled a meeting with at the last minute about 17 hours ago via web
   
6. 
   Word is that Tom Holmoe is still in Dallas as of today although we're working to confirm this. Get the latest at totalbluesports.com about 19 hours ago via web
   
7. 
   TBS just learned that BYU AD flew out to Dallas this past Friday...Big-12 is obviously holding meetings today in Dallas...coincidence? about 20 hours ago via web

In depth and accurate!

[SteelBlue]

This seriously has to be up there on the worst attempts to follow in someones footsteps ever. If not, it is certainly the worst twitter career start.


In depth and accurate!

Embarrassing.

[Flystripper]

Embarrassing.

yeah...that is bad.

[myboynoah]

Stewart Mandel: Houston, BYU won't tempt Big-12 to expand

But Houston's still got a ways to go. It's still largely a commuter school (it's got dorms, but not a lot of them) with a small local fan base (average home attendance last year: 25,242) in a city where not only pro teams, but also Texas and Texas A&M, take precedence. As of now, the Big 12 has no more reason to add Houston than the Pac-10 did Baylor. Not that Houston is doomed. Utah had much the same reputation prior to Urban Meyer's arrival, so much could change down the road.

That said, recent shuffling has left us with a particularly intriguing free agent, a tradition-rich program that's posted four straight 10-wins seasons, plays in a 64,000-seat stadium and is itching for a new home after watching its hated rival suddenly achieve BCS affiliation last week.

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BYU's one obvious drawback to the conference is that with Colorado gone, BYU really is nowhere near any of the other 10 members, and it's got no logical travel partner. Some have thrown out Air Force, but realistically, a service academy is never going to be able to compete on an annual basis with Texas and Oklahoma. As of now, it's not an issue, because like I said, the Big 12 isn't looking for new teams.

There's one scenario where I could see that stance changing, though: If, come 2012 or '13, Texas and Oklahoma run into problems with the BCS due to their watered-down league. Up until now, the Big 12 has always been viewed on the same playing field with the Big Ten and SEC, and its schools were virtually assured a spot in the championship game if they took care of business. Its teams have made seven appearances in 12 years. But we don't yet know how the pollsters will treat this new conference. Will the 'Horns and Sooners still get the benefit of the doubt due to their recent track record, or will they be penalized for perceived weak conference competition? If it becomes a problem, then maybe a call goes out to BYU and TCU.

Time to get real CougarNation. This isn't happening anytime soon.

[USUC]

Stewart Mandel: Houston, BYU won't tempt Big-12 to expand



Time to get real CougarNation. This isn't happening anytime soon.

If it happens it happens. No use stressing about it too much. Looks like nothing is going to be happening for a while. My focus has now shifted to hoping the bottom four teams in the MWC will start performing better. I posted the OOC games for these teams in another thread. The BCS teams they are playing are all tough. That won't help our cause.