The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[TripletDaddy]

So what these estimates suggest is that if Utah played a typical PAC-10 schedule last year they had a slighty less than 50% change of going 6-6. Wow, good job; that does show Utah in a very positive light. Neener-neener, indeed.

[Uncle Ted]

This just in....

ChipBrownOB Chip Brown
Sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas A&M will formally withdraw from the Big 12 on Tuesday, setting up the Aggies' application to the #SEC

ANNNDDDDDD.... OU still sucks!!!

but you may not want to say that too loud around here.

Here is the full story from Chip...

Sources close to Texas A&M tell Orangebloods.com the Aggies will announce they are formally withdrawing from the Big 12 on Tuesday, setting up their application for membership to the Southeastern Conference.

The sources said Texas A&M has spent the past few days trying to iron out what the Aggies' exit from the Big 12 will cost.

The full exit fee penalty would be between $28 million and $31 million, according to Big 12 sources. But the Big 12 could withhold A&M's revenue for the 2011-12 academic year, which would total roughly $18 million.

Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin was on a conference call with Big 12 presidents on Saturday to discuss the issue. A&M sources say the Aggies will do whatever they can to help the Big 12 find a replacement to help avoid any damage financially to the conference.

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe sent a letter to Loftin on Monday that basically said the Big 12 has no desire to sue A&M and that if the Aggies don't sue the Big 12, the league would simply withhold A&M's revenue for the rest of the 2011-12, sources said.

In a related development, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told reporters the Irish are more committed than ever to being an independent in football, quashing any potential of the Irish joining the Big 12 in the immediate future.

Big 12 sources say if Notre Dame is off the table, then there's probably no chance of adding Pittsburgh, another school that had been discussed by Big 12 presidents on their conference call Saturday after Loftin got off the teleconference.

One Big 12 administrator said there continues to be interest in gauging Arkansas' potential interest in joining the Big 12 - in what would essentially be a trade between the two leagues - and that BYU remains a potential target.

Cool. BYU is still a potential target.

[LA Ute]

Here is what you can actually say: according to one statistical model (but not necessarily the best statistical model) using 2010 data and using a definition of strength of schedule (but not necessarily the optimal definition of strength of schedule) you find the estimated parameter for Sagarin's particular definition of SOS was the highest for the PAC-10 conference. However, I (LA Ute) have no idea if this difference is reliably different in a statistical sense. However, given that the pattern is pretty strong there is a reasonable chance this result is statistical significant. But that doesn't solve some of the issues I mentioned at the beginning so I should probably say something like "at best I find weak evidence in support of my hypothesis."

I hereby adopt this summary of the data. See? I am not really all that ambitious in putting SportUte's analysis up for discussion. I just wanted to learn, and I have.

Meanwhile, poor SportUte suffers a different fate.

[TripletDaddy]

LandThieves, a Sooner insider, is claiming that BYU is demanding a 10-20 year commitment from UT and OU and that OU and UT will never sign on for such an agreement...

lol. Rock on, BYU, for making ridiculous demands of one of the most storied franchises in college football history. And of Texas.

[MarkGrace]

Yo

#BYU if you join the league please update the forum software on cougarboard.com.. 1996 was a long time ago #BigXII

Tweet from an Oklahoma fan.

[myboynoah]

Yo

Tweet from an Oklahoma fan.

Give us that 20-year commitment OK, and we'll move on that.

[Gaffords]

lol. Rock on, BYU, for making ridiculous demands of one of the most storied franchises in college football history. And of Texas.

It never hurts to ask! All negotiations have to start somewhere....

Sorry about the OU comment earlier I forget which forums I am on at times. That is the reason I haven't posted ours on here. It gets pretty rough on there. Lightly modded to say the least!

I have spotted some questions on here that I have been meaning to answer on here but haven't found time to do it!

1.) LHN = We have the rights to show 2 games a year the ESPN or FOX usually wouldn't carry and any other sport they don't want to carry.. plus old material ect... It isn't as fancy as it is played out to be. I live in Michigan so it would be nice for me!

2.) Unequal Revenue Sharing. BIG 12 has two contracts. Our big one (lol) is with FOX for 1.2 billion over 13 years that is divided equally between all members. The other contract is CBS/ESPN for 480 million over 8 years split unequally. 76% is divided equally between all teams and 24% is divided by tv appearances. This year it looks like there will be about 1.2 million difference between the #1 team in the conference and the #10 team. It isn't quite the monster it is played out to be.

3.) I don't think we will be seeing SMU. What killed the SWC is the fact it was too local. In the early 1900's it was okay, but then once TV money came into play, it never had the money that the multi state conferences drew. Then add UT took a turn and wasn't very good (we were terrible). A&M and Arky got slapped by the NCAA, which led to them not getting much respect by the Polls (pretty much black balled), that the top kids were fleeing the SWC for Miami/FSU and such! Then came the death sentence to SMU whcih at the time was the only nations appeal sealed the fate of the SWC. I don't see making those mistakes again by adding Texas Tv's which the BIG 12 already has.

[Babs]

LandThieves, a Sooner insider, is claiming that BYU is demanding a 10-20 year commitment from UT and OU...

Because these contracts mean so much . . .

[Babs]

lol. Rock on, BYU, for making ridiculous demands of one of the most storied franchises in college football history. And of Texas.

:clap:

[Jeff Lebowski]

lol. Rock on, BYU, for making ridiculous demands of one of the most storied franchises in college football history. And of Texas.

Babs -> <-DDD

[Babs]

Babs -> <-DDD

Jerkface.

[TripletDaddy]

Babs -> <-DDD

I was talking about national championships and heismans. Not self-perception.

[Viking]

I was talking about national championships and heismans. Not self-perception.

I'm so deeply hurt you've apparently credited Cheddarhall with my scoop last weekend!

[USUC]

LandThieves, a Sooner insider, is claiming that BYU is demanding a 10-20 year commitment from UT and OU and that OU and UT will never sign on for such an agreement...

Really? This seems pretty ridiculous. Anyone else corroborating this?

[BlueHair]

Really? This seems pretty ridiculous. Anyone else corroborating this?

Not even BYU is this dumb.