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**Blueintheface** · 08-29-2011, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post

I don't see WV fitting into the ACC very well but that's a possibility. I don't think Texas A&M will be joing the SEC alone and that the other team will come from the ACC.

But I don't expect Pittsburgh to join the Big 12 (or Notre Dame).

Same. That is why I asked. The point was brought up before that we didn't think BYU and Utah would ever break up (it's hard to do afterall) but I just don't see two current BCS rivals splitting. It's obviously not unheard of in this whole conference realignment of the past 12 months but seems unlikely with Pitt and WV.

**Devildog** · 08-29-2011, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post

vedderhall's post was prescient.

get him over here!

Vedderhall was all over the big 12 being a done deal last year. His "sources" confirmed it... until his credibility was completely shot. I can't believe that same guy is posting again this year... I'll bet he's a Ute having a blast.

Originally posted by kccougar View Post

:stirthepot:

A "No comment" instead of a flat denial. Awesome. The only way Pitt comes is in a package deal with Notre Dame, and BYU rounds out the 12!

Notre Dame isn't joining the Big 12. BYU may be joining the Big 12... but Notre Dame won't be.

The Big 12 might get it together, but right now it looks a mess. BYU is obviously the easiest get with value for them... and even BYU is holding their nose.

**Blueintheface** · 08-29-2011, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Devildog View Post

Vedderhall was all over the big 12 being a done deal last year. His "sources" confirmed it... until his credibility was completely shot. I can't believe that same guy is posting again this year... I'll bet he's a Ute having a blast.

Notre Dame isn't joining the Big 12. BYU may be joining the Big 12... but Notre Dame won't be.

The Big 12 might get it together, but right now it looks a mess. BYU is obviously the easiest get with value for them... and even BYU is holding their nose.

Conjecture and hearsay.

**Jeff Lebowski** · 08-29-2011, 04:19 PM

I suspect that ND is going to wait until the superconference race is on before picking a conference. Then they sit back and wait for the highest bidder. That is what I would do if I were in charge at ND.

**Solon** · 08-29-2011, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post

Solon is too much of a gentleman to be explicit about the point of his post. His point his that if BYU weren't a complicated Big 12 prospect because of academic/cultural issues (why else?) why wouldn't the Big 12 have snapped it up by now? I mean, the Big 12 decided to stay at 10 wholly because it wasn't excited about any available candidate, wasn't it?

So your post doesn't really address Solon's actual point.

Seattle Ute's observation did occur to me, and it's a worthwhile conversation to have, but I honestly didn't want to bring that part into it (for, I hope, obvious reasons). Instead, I was more interested to know (as the question was so well articulated above by smokymtnrain): from whence comes this notion that aTm has to leave before the byu can be invited? Is it just this rumor/allegation/fact(?) that the Big-12 needs to stay at 10 teams to keep the TV money rolling in? Is it one of these media ideas that just gets recycled into "fact"?

It seems to me that the byu has better options than sitting around on prom night hoping that someone's date fell through. Why doesn't the Big-12 just invite the byu outright, thereby destroying aTm's leverage? Obviously there are many factors at work, but I hope one of them is the byu's reluctance to be just a contingency plan.

If the Big-12 were serious about expanding, it would expand - regardless of aTm's actions. Big-12 folks might be deep into the nitty-gritty of making this happen for all we really know. But that's just it - we don't really know.

Both smr and mbn mentioned that there were a lot of reasons for the Big-12 to stay at 10 teams. I believe them, but don't really know what these are. I might guess that the biggest reasons have to do with an easier path to the BCS championship game and fewer mouths among which to divide that BCS paycheck, but there also have to be benefits to having a championship game.

So, I guess we're still at Square 1, which means nothing has really happened.

Good luck with all the ups and downs, byu fans. Seriously.

**Jeff Lebowski** · 08-29-2011, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Solon View Post

Seattle Ute's observation did occur to me, and it's a worthwhile conversation to have, but I honestly didn't want to bring that part into it (for, I hope, obvious reasons). Instead, I was more interested to know (as the question was so well articulated above by smokymtnrain): from whence comes this notion that aTm has to leave before the byu can be invited? Is it just this rumor/allegation/fact(?) that the Big-12 needs to stay at 10 teams to keep the TV money rolling in? Is it one of these media ideas that just gets recycled into "fact"?

It seems to me that the byu has better options than sitting around on prom night hoping the someone's date fell through. Why doesn't the Big-12 just invite the byu outright, thereby destroying aTm's leverage? Obviously there are many factors at work, but I hope one of them is the byu's reluctance to be just a contingency plan.

If the Big-12 were serious about expanding, it would expand - regardless of aTm's actions. Big-12 folks might be deep into the nitty-gritty of making this happen for all we really know. But that's just it - we don't really know.

Both smr and mbn mentioned that there were a lot of reasons for the Big-12 to stay at 10 teams. I believe them, but don't really know what these are. I might guess that the biggest reasons have to do with an easier path to the BCS championship game and fewer mouths among which to divide that BCS paycheck, but there also have to be benefits to having a championship game.

So, I guess we're still at Square 1, which means nothing has really happened.

Good luck with all the ups and downs, byu fans. Seriously.

Moot point. aTm is gone baby, gone.

**Uncle Ted** · 08-29-2011, 04:25 PM

http://twitter.com/#!/ChrisLevel/sta...24522761211904

Chris Level

#TexasTech chancellor/prez both saying this weekend that people will be surprised by who is added if A&M departs the Big 12. ND, BYU?

**LiveCoug** · 08-29-2011, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

http://twitter.com/#!/ChrisLevel/sta...24522761211904

BYU wouldn't be a surprise, so.....

**falafel** · 08-29-2011, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

http://twitter.com/#!/ChrisLevel/sta...24522761211904

Chris Level

#TexasTech chancellor/prez both saying this weekend that people will be surprised by who is added if A&M departs the Big 12. ND, BYU?

CSU, Memphis?

**Uncle Ted** · 08-29-2011, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by falafel View Post

CSU, Memphis?

My money is on SMU.

**Jarid in Cedar** · 08-29-2011, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

My money is on SMU.

Ding

**Green Monstah** · 08-29-2011, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

My money is on SMU.

I just got done running a bunch of SMU smack with a co-worker, so I sure hope this isn't true.

**Flystripper** · 08-29-2011, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

My money is on SMU.

Eff Craig James and the mustang he rode in on!!

**snowcat** · 08-29-2011, 04:40 PM

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...tml?id=7272440

LEHI cougar on CB stating and invite has been extended.

**Maximus** · 08-29-2011, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by snowcat View Post

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...tml?id=7272440

LEHI cougar on CB stating and invite has been extended.

apparently BOT meeting on Wednesday to discuss it

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