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  • SeattleUte
    Faith crisis consultant
    • Nov 2008
    • 20837
    #17656
    Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
    I think most people here, whether or not they like BYU sports, and whether or not they are active LDS members, would like to see BYU and the church become more accepting of gay students and members. Inclusion in the Big 12 is likely to drive pressure in this direction, while continued exclusion is likely to drive more of a isolationist posture that will drive re-entrenchment and defensiveness. So really, I think we can all agree that Big 12 inclusion is good for everyone. Unless you don't care about gay people, I guess.
    :crazy:
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift

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      • LiveCoug
        LA Ute loves me
        • Nov 2008
        • 18477
        #17657
        We made the final 17!

        http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17281618/big-12-commissioner-bob-bowlsby-interview-17-schools-expansion

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          • snowcat
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 1348
            #17658
            Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
            We made the final 17!

            http://www.espn.com/college-football...ools-expansion
            Try to describe the Big 12 without using the word cluster.
            One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

            Woot

            I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
            SU

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              • Omaha 680
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 11159
                #17659
                Originally posted by snowcat View Post
                Try to describe the Big 12 without using the word cluster.
                Dumpster-Fire.jpg

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                  • Uncle Ted
                    The Big 12 money shot.
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 28853
                    #17660
                    Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                    We made the final 17!

                    http://www.espn.com/college-football...ools-expansion

                    Did you notice that three schools were not mentioned... Pac-X teams wanting to jump ship.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Commando
                        Explosivo
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 20748
                        #17661
                        Nah. Probably like SDSU, Fresno, UNLV.

                        If the vote comes down to video presentations... HD Truck.
                        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                          • LiveCoug
                            LA Ute loves me
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 18477
                            #17662
                            There is no way (well, i guess there is) the B12 is dumb enough to have a serious contender list of 17 schools. They HAVE to have already narrowed it down to much, much fewer schools. It's so silly.

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                              • Commando
                                Explosivo
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 20748
                                #17663
                                Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                                There is no way (well, i guess there is) the B12 is dumb enough to have a serious contender list of 17 schools. They HAVE to have already narrowed it down to much, much fewer schools. It's so silly.
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                                  • Uncle Ted
                                    The Big 12 money shot.
                                    • Apr 2010
                                    • 28853
                                    #17664
                                    Originally posted by Commando View Post
                                    Nah. Probably like SDSU, Fresno, UNLV.

                                    If the vote comes down to video presentations... HD Truck.
                                    The PAC-X schools wouldn't want to tip off Larry Scott and cause an unnecessary sh*t storm. There is no problem mentioning schools like SDSU, Fresno, and UNLV.
                                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                                      • Uncle Ted
                                        The Big 12 money shot.
                                        • Apr 2010
                                        • 28853
                                        #17665
                                        Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post

                                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                                          • Eddie
                                            Senior Member
                                            • Apr 2009
                                            • 8098
                                            #17666
                                            Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                                            Former gay big 12 athletes dont want byu.
                                            This is my favorite part:
                                            "I've announced BYU in many sports when they've played Big 12 teams," said Banning, who worked four years as an announcer for Kansas State basketball, volleyball and baseball before recently moving to Austin, where he now works part time in the University of Texas' athletics department. "Every interaction I've had with a BYU student, faculty and fan has always been great. Zero issues. But there is that code. As an LGBT person working in the Big 12, it could be a problem."
                                            Wait - you've already been there doing it. Nothing...NOTHING has changed at BYU as far as what they are doing. And...quite frankly...if anything, BYU has become more accepting of LGBT folks over the past few years. But now, all of a sudden, if BYU joins the BIGXII, now it could be a problem?

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                                              • DrumNFeather
                                                Invisible Swordsman
                                                • Nov 2008
                                                • 8854
                                                #17667


                                                Smoke!
                                                "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                                                Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                                                  • lambdacoug
                                                    Junior Member
                                                    • Oct 2011
                                                    • 3981
                                                    #17668
                                                    Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post


                                                    Smoke!
                                                    Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                                                    - Howard Aiken

                                                    Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                                                    - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                                                      • Blueintheface
                                                        Senior Member
                                                        • Sep 2009
                                                        • 15382
                                                        #17669
                                                        Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post
                                                        Boo. Déclassé.
                                                        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                                                        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                                                          • Commando
                                                            Explosivo
                                                            • Feb 2009
                                                            • 20748
                                                            #17670
                                                            Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                                            The PAC-X schools wouldn't want to tip off Larry Scott and cause an unnecessary sh*t storm. There is no problem mentioning schools like SDSU, Fresno, and UNLV.


                                                            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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