The Big 12 expansion groundswell

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  • Color Me Badd Fan
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 12519

    #16126
    What happens if Ohio State beats Michigan State, but loses to Michigan? Michigan goes to the Big 10 title game and loses to Iowa.

    The result is Iowa goes to the playoffs and probably Ohio State as well, unless Oklahoma State wins out.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69422

      #16127
      Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
      If Babs' crew wins out they will be in.
      Any team that loses to this year's Texas team does NOT deserve to be in the playoffs.

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      • Uncle Ted
        The Big 12 money shot.
        • Apr 2010
        • 28853

        #16128
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Any team that loses to this year's Texas team does NOT deserve to be in the playoffs.
        That's right! And Baylor is overrated... Who have they played that is worth a crap?




        Texas will most likely knock the snot out of them too.
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        • Uncle Ted
          The Big 12 money shot.
          • Apr 2010
          • 28853

          #16129
          Originally posted by Maximus View Post
          ND might go ahead of them though
          If ND finishes strong and OU wins the B12 by the tie breaker rule then ND will go ahead of OU. The selection committee will look at common opponents: ND > Texas > OU. Simplify: ND > OU.
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          • Omaha 680
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 11164

            #16130
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Any team that loses to this year's Texas team does NOT deserve to be in the playoffs.

            I agree. Unless Oklahoma wins their last two games by a billion points and some one loss teams lose Oklahoma should not be considered.

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            • jay santos
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 13652

              #16131
              Not to be Debbie Downer, but I think I'd be fine with Big 12 waiting a few years. Houston and Memphis are hot and these conferences have proven each time how short sighted they are when it comes to expansion.

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              • TripletDaddy
                sweet triple
                • Nov 2008
                • 58186

                #16132
                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                Not to be Debbie Downer, but I think I'd be fine with Big 12 waiting a few years. Houston and Memphis are hot and these conferences have proven each time how short sighted they are when it comes to expansion.
                you think the b12 will invite an unranked memphis that already has two losses this season??
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                • Uncle Ted
                  The Big 12 money shot.
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 28853

                  #16133
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  you think the b12 will invite an unranked memphis that already has two losses this season??
                  Doesn't memphis come with a FedEx truck full of money?
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                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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                  • Paperback Writer
                    Signature won a Pulitzer
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5211

                    #16134
                    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                    What happens if Ohio State beats Michigan State, but loses to Michigan? Michigan goes to the Big 10 title game and loses to Iowa.

                    The result is Iowa goes to the playoffs and probably Ohio State as well, unless Oklahoma State wins out.
                    Iowa is a poser. The Hawkeyes played a weak OOC schedule with their only opponent of note being a mediocre Pitt team. They play in a weak division and their cross over games were against Maryland and Indiana. How does a program play in the Big Ten and not face any of Ohio St., Michigan, Michigan St., or Penn St.? There's a good chance Iowa loses to Nebraska in Lincoln on Black Friday...and that's saying something. Iowa will NOT win against Michigan, Michigan St., or Ohio St. in the Big Ten CCG.
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                    • The_Douger
                      Athletic Supporter
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 5413

                      #16135
                      Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
                      Iowa is a poser. The Hawkeyes played a weak OOC schedule with their only opponent of note being a mediocre Pitt team. They play in a weak division and their cross over games were against Maryland and Indiana. How does a program play in the Big Ten and not face any of Ohio St., Michigan, Michigan St., or Penn St.? There's a good chance Iowa loses to Nebraska in Lincoln on Black Friday...and that's saying something. Iowa will NOT win against Michigan, Michigan St., or Ohio St. in the Big Ten CCG.
                      They should have the division title wrapped up before they play NU. There should be plenty of motivation for them to finish unbeaten, but I could see them being upset. Iowa is going to go play the PAC12 winner once they lose in the CCG, and I'd venture they'll get beaten by the PAC12 champ as well.
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                      • Paperback Writer
                        Signature won a Pulitzer
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5211

                        #16136
                        Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
                        They should have the division title wrapped up before they play NU. There should be plenty of motivation for them to finish unbeaten, but I could see them being upset. Iowa is going to go play the PAC12 winner once they lose in the CCG, and I'd venture they'll get beaten by the PAC12 champ as well.
                        Iowa will most likely play in the Big Ten CCG; they only have to beat Purdue this week or have Minnesota upset Wisconsin and the Hawkeyes win the Big Ten West. Nebraska has to upset Iowa to get to six wins and be guaranteed a bowl game. Iowa has beaten only three teams with winning records: Pitt (7-3), Wisconsin (8-2), and Northwestern (8-2). They are posers and will finish the season with at least two losses and three if Nebraska upsets them in Lincoln.
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                        • Green Monstah
                          Royal Rooter
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 13888

                          #16137
                          I don't disagree that Iowa is overrated, but if they handle their business in the championship game, they probably deserve a playoff spot. They also killed Northwestern. Not a juggernaut, but a decent team.

                          I don't expect them to have any trouble with Nebraska.
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                          • TripletDaddy
                            sweet triple
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 58186

                            #16138
                            OU 7
                            OK state 6

                            i don't think either team would be able to hold onto the fourth spot (assuming they could get there) as they sit idle on ccg weekend. Everyone playing that weekend is playing another ranked team and the winner will jump an idle b12 team again.
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                            • Uncle Ted
                              The Big 12 money shot.
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 28853

                              #16139
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              OU 7
                              OK state 6

                              i don't think either team would be able to hold onto the fourth spot (assuming they could get there) as they sit idle on ccg weekend. Everyone playing that weekend is playing another ranked team and the winner will jump an idle b12 team again.
                              Depends how you spin it... I don't think this ranking takes in account the ugly Iowa St win last week and the fact the pokes will lose to OU:

                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Paperback Writer
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5211

                                #16140
                                Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                                I don't disagree that Iowa is overrated, but if they handle their business in the championship game, they probably deserve a playoff spot. They also killed Northwestern. Not a juggernaut, but a decent team.

                                I don't expect them to have any trouble with Nebraska.
                                Agree if Iowa goes undefeated and wins the Big Ten CCG, they will have earned a playoff spot. Maybe that's the solution to the Big 12 not getting an invite - giving two playoff seeds to the Big Ten (undefeated Iowa and one-loss Ohio St.). But I have doubts about Iowa because of the Hawkeyes very favorable schedule which is comparable to Oklahoma St. and Baylor.

                                It's been a disappointing season for Nebraska to say the least, but if the Huskers have proved one thing, its that they are capable of beating an undefeated team in Lincoln (Michigan St.) as long as the refs allow a receiver to go out-of-bounds before coming back in to make the game-winning TD catch.
                                “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
                                "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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