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  • #31
    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
    I didn't think the Big 10 would go after two Big 12 schools. I wonder then if the Big 12 should go after Utah and BYU. They don't get the TVs back but they get to fill two Big 12 North holes with good teams with a rivalry.
    Cowheard was saying this morning that the Big 12 doesn't share revenue like the Little 11 does. He said that is the main reason that Nebraska and Mizzou would jump at the chance to join the Little 11. He was also talking about how Notre Dames T.V. contract isn't as good as everything thinks and that they would make more by joining the Little 11 as well. Lot's of chatter about this.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
      Cowheard was saying this morning that the Big 12 doesn't share revenue like the Little 11 does. He said that is the main reason that Nebraska and Mizzou would jump at the chance to join the Little 11. He was also talking about how Notre Dames T.V. contract isn't as good as everything thinks and that they would make more by joining the Little 11 as well. Lot's of chatter about this.
      I didn't know that about the Big 12. Interesting. Maybe BYU and Utah to the Big 12 together isn't a wishful thought then.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
        I didn't know that about the Big 12. Interesting.
        I didn't either until he said that this morning. He said that his is the reason why Texas is making so much money. They don't have to share any of it.
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        • #34
          Big Ten has denied the report. We'll see how it plays out..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
            Cowheard was saying this morning that the Big 12 doesn't share revenue like the Little 11 does. He said that is the main reason that Nebraska and Mizzou would jump at the chance to join the Little 11. He was also talking about how Notre Dames T.V. contract isn't as good as everything thinks and that they would make more by joining the Little 11 as well. Lot's of chatter about this.
            According to the NY Times (All the news that's fit to make up) Notre Dame gets 15 million a year from NBC and they get at least 1 million if they dont got to a bcs game and 4.5 million if they do. That is at most for football 19.5 million now count what they get from the big east from every other sport. Lets say at most 2 million and in a bcs year they will get 21.5 million in tv revenue.

            From the big10 network alone the schools get 22 million a piece. Now figure the abc/espn deals and its not much to say that Notre Dame would make more being in the big11 then alone.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
              According to the NY Times (All the news that's fit to make up) Notre Dame gets 15 million a year from NBC and they get at least 1 million if they dont got to a bcs game and 4.5 million if they do. That is at most for football 19.5 million now count what they get from the big east from every other sport. Lets say at most 2 million and in a bcs year they will get 21.5 million in tv revenue.

              From the big10 network alone the schools get 22 million a piece. Now figure the abc/espn deals and its not much to say that Notre Dame would make more being in the big11 then alone.
              The thing is, Notre Dame has this perception about themselves that they are still the team that dominated in the 70's to early 90's. It is looking more and more like Notre Dame going to the Little 11 would benefit them financially but the questions is, can they swallow their pride and realize they aren't the team the once were and make the switch?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                The thing is, Notre Dame has this perception about themselves that they are still the team that dominated in the 70's to early 90's. It is looking more and more like Notre Dame going to the Little 11 would benefit them financially but the questions is, can they swallow their pride and realize they aren't the team the once were and make the switch?
                I vote no. Hubris is a much more powerful than practical sense. I hope they decline. It will continue their march to irrelevance.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                  The thing is, Notre Dame has this perception about themselves that they are still the team that dominated in the 70's to early 90's. It is looking more and more like Notre Dame going to the Little 11 would benefit them financially but the questions is, can they swallow their pride and realize they aren't the team the once were and make the switch?
                  they already play 4-5 big 10 games every year anyways. Add 4 more is not going to be that hard.
                  "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                    they already play 4-5 big 10 games every year anyways. Add 4 more is not going to be that hard.
                    But at the expense of who? USC? Navy? Pitt? Stanford? BC? I think those are important to Notre Dame.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                      But at the expense of who? USC? Navy? Pitt? Stanford? BC? I think those are important to Notre Dame.
                      USC and Navy are the only "real" important games. Stanford, Pitt & BC can be a once every 2-3 years thing.
                      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                      "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                        USC and Navy are the only "real" important games. Stanford, Pitt & BC can be a once every 2-3 years thing.
                        I think there was a gentleman's agreement/promise from Notre Dame to Navy that they would keep them on their schedule every year because of a game that Navy agreed to play them back in day that saved Notre Dame's butts for some reason. When I say back in the day I mean the 40's or 50's. Can't remember the details very well.

                        It is a must that they keep SC and Navy on there schedule. I love traditions in college football and would be very disappointed if these weren't kept.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                          Exactly everyone is citing the same Missourri radio station. Including ESPN.

                          I just watched a video on ESPN where Forde says his sources are saying the same thing. That Nebraska and Missouri have both been offered. FWIW.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                            The thing is, Notre Dame has this perception about themselves that they are still the team that dominated in the 70's to early 90's. It is looking more and more like Notre Dame going to the Little 11 would benefit them financially but the questions is, can they swallow their pride and realize they aren't the team the once were and make the switch?
                            I see no benefit for ND to join the Big 10. Financially they do not need the money they have their own tv contract with NBC. They are the largest brand in college football. Of course the big 10 wants them and wants a piece of the pie. I think if ND goes they are playing by completely different set of rules than the rest of the league.
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                            • #44
                              This news is abuzz in my office as well, which is in the heart of BIG XII country. Local radio is speculating that if Mizzou and Nebraska take the offer that the BIG XII should go after Louisville and Air Force to fill out the North division. Their reasons were that Louisville puts the BIG XII in SEC country (????? Kentucky is not really SEC country) and Air Force has a big national following (sure, whatever but they suck in a lot of things other than football).

                              Personally I want BYU in the BIG XII as they would play more games close to my home and I'm a selfish person.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                                I see no benefit for ND to join the Big 10. Financially they do not need the money they have their own tv contract with NBC. They are the largest brand in college football. Of course the big 10 wants them and wants a piece of the pie. I think if ND goes they are playing by completely different set of rules than the rest of the league.
                                So they don't need the money, but don't you think they want the money? Or are you saying that it would not actually be more money, as argued by MRD above?
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