Bronco axed Kona. CB is going crazy.

[myboynoah]

How so? You think Bronco is the only coach who says he'll yank a player's schollie if they start tripping after they've committed?

Bronco did nothing wrong. If Kona is 100% committed then why trip to ND? To hang out with friends?

Yeah, then ND are the fools.

He says he still has a trip to Washington. How's that going to work?

Also, I love Bronco for telling people, FU we are BYU.

[Goatnapper'96]

Yeah, then ND are the fools.

He says he still has a trip to Washington. How's that going to work?

My guess is the trip to ND ends tonight and he is off to Washington until Sunday evening.

[Surfah]

Yeah, then ND are the fools.

He says he still has a trip to Washington. How's that going to work?

If it's an official visit it has to happen after signing day.

[dabrockster]

Doesn't this open up a schollie for the kid from USC that is coming to BYU?

It looks like BM is not going to be burned by another Teo type and has cut it before it got more painful.. I am on board with whatever BM does. He has built a solid program and it is paying off.

Do what you gotta do BM...

[Indy Coug]

My guess is the trip to ND ends tonight and he is off to Washington until Sunday evening.

The magic question is why all of the last second scurrying around by Kona? He's had months to do this, so why now and why so many different schools?

[MarkGrace]

So Bronco explained prior to Kona's commit that by committing, he couldn't accept any invites to other universities to visit buddies? I guess I missed that part of the story.

According to the parents of other commits, this is exactly what Bronco tells kids. And according to what I've read, this is exactly what most coaches tell kids.

[Goatnapper'96]

The magic question is why all of the last second scurrying around by Kona? He's had months to do this, so why now and why so many different schools?

I think it is obvious that Kona was looking around, why else would the family offer up as cover from the airport, enroute to merely visit his buddies with his parents as they are probably concerned about Manti's influence on Kona without them as chaperones, that Alllllllmighty God had packaged Kona for the BYU? They were attempting to stroke it to the left..stroke it to the right!

[TripletDaddy]

How so? You think Bronco is the only coach who says he'll yank a player's schollie if they start tripping after they've committed?

Bronco did nothing wrong. If Kona is 100% committed then why trip to ND? To hang out with friends?

I am not sure if he is the only one, but I have never heard of that at SC. And players there keep taking trips all the time. It is a pretty common thing to do. This is why the coaches have to keep flying around and calling these kids....because they keep getting recruited up until the final bell rings.

SC has also landed some kabooms in the final week because commits to other schools have taken trips to SC after giving a commit elsewhere. This weekend, Jordan Zumwalt (LB) is visiting SC....he already committed to the Trees.

I agree with smokymountainrain.....Bronco comes across as small time. Disallowing someone from taking a free trip to another school? How insecure can you get?

[beefytee]

As a BYU student, I was underwhelmed with the quality of teaching on a number of different fronts. I went to a private HS and the quality of teaching was consistently better there than at BYU.

What leads you think that other universities are any better?

HS teachers are required to have education degrees (perhaps not private schools like you attended, but public schools), university professors are not.

At a lot of the prestigious schools, you rarely see professors teaching undergraduate courses anyways. Most of them are taught by graduate students.

[Indy Coug]

What leads you think that other universities are any better?

HS teachers are required to have education degrees (perhaps not private schools like you attended, but public schools), university professors are not.

At a lot of the prestigious schools, you rarely see professors teaching undergraduate courses anyways. Most of them are taught by graduate students.

Maybe I'm just funny this way, but when my education costs that much money, I'd appreciate it if the person teaching me can actually teach rather than being a researcher moonlighting as a regurgitator of textbooks.

[jay santos]

First of all SU if you read the quotes it says that he is still fully committed to BYU but wanted to visit some friends. Bronco said bullshit no reason to trip if you are fully committed to BYU. Then the kid said well I prayed about it and BYU is where I am supposed to be, however I want to visit my boys Manti and Roby Toma out in South Bend. Bronco says sorry if this is where you truly think you need to be then no more recruiting trips. Kona says well I am going ot take this regardless, but I am still committed to you. Bronco says go ahead and take it but we are no longer going to hold your schollie.

Kona is pissed, his dad is pissed, yet for some reason they still take the trip.

If this is how it went down, then I think Kona made the right choice. If you're a big time athlete with a lot of people courting you, a big part of the equation is which coach believes in you the most. Entering into a relationship with a coach that you have friction with, when you have other options, is not a good decision.

[byu71]

This is a really jerky thing to say, SU. People struggle with insecurity to the point that they need meds. The last thing they need is some rich lawyer telling them they are assholes.

This isn't true in all cases of course, but have you ever notice the accusation of insecurity often is thrown out by someone who is insecure.

Beware of the preacher who constantly harps on others infidelities. Beware of the State Senator who is adamant about strong liquor laws.

I am not saying those who advocate good things always are acting in a contrary manner, just to be aware if they seem to have an obsession about it.

Like I know a guy who knocks the honor code obsessively. I supsect it is a cover for the fact he loves it

[SCcoug]

Like I know a guy who knocks the honor code obsessively. I supsect it is a cover for the fact he loves it

lol

[jay santos]

Well there goes my prediction of cooler heads prevailing. I know nothing about this situation but it is my opinion that there is likely more to the story than we can read. I assume this simply because it is my opinion that Bronco wants to win games. I give him the benefit of the doubt that he knows it is easier to win games with better football players. Hence, I conclude that given his druthers and all things being equal he would prefer more talented athletes than less talented athletes. At some point he made a decision that he no longer preferred this athlete. The young kid going on a recruiting trip, in and of itself, doesn't strike my common sense as a reason to no longer prefer the more talented athlete over the less talented athlete. I reject the notions of Bronco being a moron so I am left to conclude there is more to the story than I am presently being told. However, if the story is as simple as the Schwenke's profess, then Bronco made a boo-boo.

Can I say, for the millionth time, that I am always skeptical of he that prays and God tells him to go and play football at BYU? Personal revelation is the ultimate crutch in LDS culture. If you want anything claim God told you and there NOTHING anyone can say in the opposite.

What if you added this into your assumptions...

Bronco's not stupid.

Bronco wants to win games.

Bronco's ego and pride won't allow him to comply with the standard coaching requirement of kissing 18 yo ass to bring in a great recruiting class?

[Indy Coug]

Bronco's ego and pride won't allow him to comply with the standard coaching requirement of kissing 18 yo ass to bring in a great recruiting class?

LOL