Bronco axed Kona. CB is going crazy.

[byu71]

Yep I agree. I really think if there was more to the story from BYU's side, McKay would not be holding back. And neither would I, like you said, my kids are way more important than BYU.

Of course having a ND schollie offer on the table makes my bark sound much louder too....

Yep, and I want to make it perfectly clear. Based on what I have heard so far, I have no problem with what Bronco has done.

[Coach McGuirk]

Absolutely not. Stop the whispering campaign. Kona is a good kid.



So you really believe Bronco would just say that out of the blue? I am not judging the kid. I had a WoW problem back in the day, and I don't or didn't think of myself as a bad kid. Either Bronco had a reason for saying something like that, or he really never said it in the first place and McKay is looking for dirt to throw.

dude stop projecting already.

[Surfah]

Why do you think ND is tripping all these kids at 11:59? They know it is an effective tool to get the kids to decommit. It works, so kids who trip at the last minute even though they have already committed are on perilous grounds.

ND is tripping a ton of kids this weekend. I read they have 10 scholarships available still.

[Katy Lied]

I move Bronco implements a new policy. Appoint someone to be the Kahuku/Hawaii arbitrage. Anae, Kaufusi, or Doman. Somebody smoothe that gets along with the Poly's and can walk a tight rope. Don't let Bronco talk to any recruits, families, or high school coaches from Hawaii. Chow pissed off that group in the 90's and now Bronco seems to be doing it.

Kahuku has a problem with kids who decommit. BYU is not the only school who suffers because of this. Utah, Hawaii, and other longtime relationships are suffering right now.

This reputation that Kahuku is developing is hurting Kahuku as well. Right now, there is a low-star (no star?) athlete who is being recruited by Weber State. He has no other options, and is praying for a scholarship from Weber. Weber might not be a powerhouse, but they have a few schollies to give, and they have to husband what they have. If Kahuku has a reputation for decommitting, what kind of chance is the Weber coach going to take on this kid? It's a poor community-The school wants to get as many scholarships as possible for all of their athletes, not just the high profile ones.

[TripletDaddy]

As has been mentioned several times above, I think the issue is the timing. I will share a personal example, that likely is unrelated, but oh well. My wife and i dated 16 months before we got engaged and almost 2 years before we were married. At the 14 month mark "her missionary" returned from wherever that loser unfaithfully served She wanted to go out with him, to deal with a few unresolved issues she had and primarily to make sure she didn't have any feelings she would always wonder "what if...". I wasn't particularly happy with the situation, but I understood her feelings so I dealt with it Obviously, everything worked out fine for me. Now if the same scenario was to occur 5 days before our wedding, I think I would have A LOT more trouble being the supportive boyfriend. I can't speak for others, and maybe it would have been dumb, but I'm pretty sure I would have issued the ultimatum, him or me, if I knew my family and friends were already in route to see the wedding.

I see from a timing perspective. That is a fair point.

So if it is a simply timing issue, you seem to be in agreement that Bronco would NOT pull a scholarship if a commit tripped elsewhere a month ago?

[byu71]

Absolutely not. Stop the whispering campaign. Kona is a good kid.



So you really believe Bronco would just say that out of the blue? I am not judging the kid. I had a WoW problem back in the day, and I don't or didn't think of myself as a bad kid. Either Bronco had a reason for saying something like that, or he really never said it in the first place and McKay is looking for dirt to throw.

You really had a WOW issue and didn't think of yourself as a bad kid? What kind of parenting did you have. Didn't you ever go to church.

[Surfah]

Kahuku has a problem with kids who decommit. BYU is not the only school who suffers because of this. Utah, Hawaii, and other longtime relationships are suffering right now.

This reputation that Kahuku is developing is hurting Kahuku as well. Right now, there is a low-star (no star?) athlete who is being recruited by Weber State. He has no other options, and is praying for a scholarship from Weber. Weber might not be a powerhouse, but they have a few schollies to give, and they have to husband what they have. If Kahuku has a reputation for decommitting, what kind of chance is the Weber coach going to take on this kid? It's a poor community-The school wants to get as many scholarships as possible for all of their athletes, not just the high profile ones.

How much of this is Torres' fault? Or does he not have anything to do with it?

[cougjunkie]

Kahuku has a problem with kids who decommit. BYU is not the only school who suffers because of this. Utah, Hawaii, and other longtime relationships are suffering right now.

This reputation that Kahuku is developing is hurting Kahuku as well. Right now, there is a low-star (no star?) athlete who is being recruited by Weber State. He has no other options, and is praying for a scholarship from Weber. Weber might not be a powerhouse, but they have a few schollies to give, and they have to husband what they have. If Kahuku has a reputation for decommitting, what kind of chance is the Weber coach going to take on this kid? It's a poor community-The school wants to get as many scholarships as possible for all of their athletes, not just the high profile ones.

Torres seems to have an axe to grind with both BYU and Utah. Its sad to watch. However him and Joe Seumalo (Oregon States D-line coach) are best friends.

[TripletDaddy]

I think you have no idea what is going on in this situation. And you have no idea about what goes on behind the scenes in recruiting in general.

lol. this coming from someone with a red SC hoodie.

How many of your predictions have been accurate?

[Goatnapper'96]

Kahuku has a problem with kids who decommit. BYU is not the only school who suffers because of this. Utah, Hawaii, and other longtime relationships are suffering right now.

This reputation that Kahuku is developing is hurting Kahuku as well. Right now, there is a low-star (no star?) athlete who is being recruited by Weber State. He has no other options, and is praying for a scholarship from Weber. Weber might not be a powerhouse, but they have a few schollies to give, and they have to husband what they have. If Kahuku has a reputation for decommitting, what kind of chance is the Weber coach going to take on this kid? It's a poor community-The school wants to get as many scholarships as possible for all of their athletes, not just the high profile ones.

The high school might not be sending as many current studs to BYU as years past, but the playing surface will always be holy ground to me!

If I am sucking down some garlic shrimp from Giovanni's, all the better! MUH-HALL-FREAKING-OH!

[byu71]

Kahuku has a problem with kids who decommit. BYU is not the only school who suffers because of this. Utah, Hawaii, and other longtime relationships are suffering right now.

This reputation that Kahuku is developing is hurting Kahuku as well. Right now, there is a low-star (no star?) athlete who is being recruited by Weber State. He has no other options, and is praying for a scholarship from Weber. Weber might not be a powerhouse, but they have a few schollies to give, and they have to husband what they have. If Kahuku has a reputation for decommitting, what kind of chance is the Weber coach going to take on this kid? It's a poor community-The school wants to get as many scholarships as possible for all of their athletes, not just the high profile ones.

If they have a higher than average number of decommits, do you have any theory as to the reason for this.

[Surfah]

Check my Cougarboard Friends Only post for some of the background on the Kona story. I'll put it up there in 10 minutes.

Can I be your Cougarboard Friend?

[Coach McGuirk]

Check my Cougarboard Friends Only post for some of the background on the Kona story. I'll put it up there in 10 minutes.

How about the SE? Too leaky?

[cougjunkie]

Can I be your Cougarboard Friend?

LOL me too.

[jay santos]

Kahuku has a problem with kids who decommit. BYU is not the only school who suffers because of this. Utah, Hawaii, and other longtime relationships are suffering right now.

This reputation that Kahuku is developing is hurting Kahuku as well. Right now, there is a low-star (no star?) athlete who is being recruited by Weber State. He has no other options, and is praying for a scholarship from Weber. Weber might not be a powerhouse, but they have a few schollies to give, and they have to husband what they have. If Kahuku has a reputation for decommitting, what kind of chance is the Weber coach going to take on this kid? It's a poor community-The school wants to get as many scholarships as possible for all of their athletes, not just the high profile ones.

It doesn't matter if Kahuku's right or wrong. BYU needs Kahuku recruits to be the best it can be. So it's BYU's job to figure out how to make it work. Giving them the finger doesn't seem to have worked in the past.