Fight On for old SC, Fight On to Victory!

[dabrockster]

UPDATE on Seantrel-Gate:

SC now the favorites to land nations #1 overall recruit?

http://www.twincities.com/ci_14317435?nclick_check=1

I notice Lane is absent from those that impressed him..


But it is looking more and more like Tressel has dropped the ball on this one..

[TripletDaddy]

I highly doubt that. Ohio State has put more kids in the NFL then USC the last few years..

We should also compare Heismans, NFL First round draft picks (most of any school), All Americans, NFL Hall of Famers, Rose Bowl wins (I will actually spot OSU Rose Bowl appearances vs SC Rose Bowl wins), overall bowl apperances, etc.

hang on, sloopy!

[dabrockster]

That is done by conference so it was referencing the Pac-10 only. But here is the list of NFL players by college:

Ohio State:


USC:


39-36 SC wins.

39 former Ohio State players are currently active on rosters of National Football League teams: Will Allen, Kirk Barton, Alex Boone, Bobby Carpenter, Nate Clements, Na'il Diggs, Marcus Freeman, Chris Gamble, Vernon Gholston, Ted Ginn, Jr., Anthony Gonzalez, Larry Grant, Brian Hartline, Ben Hartsock, A. J. Hawk, Santonio Holmes, Kevin Houser, Malcolm Jenkins, Michael Jenkins, James Laurinaitis, Nick Mangold, Donnie Nickey, Orlando Pace, Kenny Peterson, Ryan Pickett, Jay Richardson, Brian Robiskie, Rob Sims, Antonio Smith, Will Smith, Troy Smith, Shawn Springs, Mike Vrabel, Donald Washington, Chris Wells, Donte Whitner, Matt Wilhelm, Antoine Winfield, and Ashton Youboty.

Doesn't matter if they were drafter or not.. It is how many currently on an NFL roster.. Yes Wiki is your friends...

[cougjunkie]

In the 2004 NFL Draft, 14 Buckeyes were drafted, a record number for any school in a single draft.


Players selected in NFL Drafts
With two first-round selections in 2007, the Buckeyes have the second most first-round selections all-time in the history of the NFL Draft, one less than USC (67).[39] The Buckeyes had another first round selection in 2008, and two more in 2009.

2006 NFL Draft selections
Round Pick # Team Player
1 5 Green Bay Packers A.J. Hawk Linebacker
1 8 Buffalo Bills Donte Whitner Safety
1 18 Dallas Cowboys Bobby Carpenter Linebacker
1 25 Pittsburgh Steelers Santonio Holmes Wide Receiver
1 29 New York Jets Nick Mangold Center
3 70 Buffalo Bills Ashton Youboty Cornerback
3 76 New York Jets Anthony Schlegel Linebacker
4 121 Carolina Panthers Nate Salley Safety
4 128 Seattle Seahawks Rob Sims Guard

2007 NFL Draft selections
Round Pick # Team Player
1 9 Miami Dolphins Ted Ginn, Jr. Wide Receiver
1 32 Indianapolis Colts Anthony Gonzalez Wide Receiver
3 18 Indianapolis Colts Quinn Pitcock Defensive End
4 107 New Orleans Saints Antonio Pittman Running Back
5 138 Oakland Raiders Jay Richardson Defensive Tackle
5 169 Indianapolis Colts Roy Hall Wide Receiver
5 174 Baltimore Ravens Troy Smith Quarterback
6 198 Atlanta Falcons Doug Datish Center

2008 NFL Draft selections
Round Pick # Team Player
1 6 New York Jets Vernon Gholston Defensive Line
7 214 San Francisco 49ers Larry Grant Linebacker
7 247 Chicago Bears Kirk Barton Offensive Tackle

2009 NFL Draft selections
Round Pick # Team Player
1 14 New Orleans Saints Malcolm Jenkins Cornerback
1 31 Arizona Cardinals Chris Wells Running back
2 35 St. Louis Rams James Laurinaitis Linebacker
2 36 Cleveland Browns Brian Robiskie Wide receiver
4 102 Kansas City Chiefs Donald Washington Defensive Back
4 108 Miami Dolphins Brian Hartline Wide receiver
5 154 Chicago Bears Marcus Freeman Linebacker

USC had 4 first round picks in 2008 and 3 in 2009. The gap is widening.

[dabrockster]

We should also compare Heismans, NFL First round draft picks (most of any school), All Americans, NFL Hall of Famers, Rose Bowl wins (I will actually spot OSU Rose Bowl appearances vs SC Rose Bowl wins), overall bowl apperances, etc.

hang on, sloopy!

Yes, we are behind you in number of 1st round picks.

By one 1 believe.. Big Freaking deal...

The fact of the matter is it does not matter the number of players etc. But will the current coaches OL coach be able to help him progress to be a NFL player.. Both schools can do that. It only comes down to sunny skies or grey skies and sucky winters.. I hope he choses sucky winters..

[TripletDaddy]

Where is Maurice Clarett on that current list?

[dabrockster]

USC had 4 first round picks in 2008 and 3 in 2009. The gap is widening.

Cyclical...

[il Padrino Ute]

Yes, we are behind you in number of 1st round picks.

By one 1 believe.. Big Freaking deal...

The fact of the matter is it does not matter the number of players etc. But will the current coaches OL coach be able to help him progress to be a NFL player.. Both schools can do that. It only comes down to sunny skies or grey skies and sucky winters.. I hope he choses sucky winters..

When DDD plays the Heisman card, you need to play the Multiple Heisman card.

[Hot Lunch]

In the 2004 NFL Draft, 14 Buckeyes were drafted, a record number for any school in a single draft.


Players selected in NFL Drafts
With two first-round selections in 2007, the Buckeyes have the second most first-round selections all-time in the history of the NFL Draft, one less than USC (67).[39] The Buckeyes had another first round selection in 2008, and two more in 2009.

2006 NFL Draft selections
Round Pick # Team Player
1 5 Green Bay Packers A.J. Hawk Linebacker
1 8 Buffalo Bills Donte Whitner Safety
1 18 Dallas Cowboys Bobby Carpenter Linebacker
1 25 Pittsburgh Steelers Santonio Holmes Wide Receiver
1 29 New York Jets Nick Mangold Center
3 70 Buffalo Bills Ashton Youboty Cornerback
3 76 New York Jets Anthony Schlegel Linebacker
4 121 Carolina Panthers Nate Salley Safety
4 128 Seattle Seahawks Rob Sims Guard

2007 NFL Draft selections
Round Pick # Team Player
1 9 Miami Dolphins Ted Ginn, Jr. Wide Receiver
1 32 Indianapolis Colts Anthony Gonzalez Wide Receiver
3 18 Indianapolis Colts Quinn Pitcock Defensive End
4 107 New Orleans Saints Antonio Pittman Running Back
5 138 Oakland Raiders Jay Richardson Defensive Tackle
5 169 Indianapolis Colts Roy Hall Wide Receiver
5 174 Baltimore Ravens Troy Smith Quarterback
6 198 Atlanta Falcons Doug Datish Center

2008 NFL Draft selections
Round Pick # Team Player
1 6 New York Jets Vernon Gholston Defensive Line
7 214 San Francisco 49ers Larry Grant Linebacker
7 247 Chicago Bears Kirk Barton Offensive Tackle

2009 NFL Draft selections
Round Pick # Team Player
1 14 New Orleans Saints Malcolm Jenkins Cornerback
1 31 Arizona Cardinals Chris Wells Running back
2 35 St. Louis Rams James Laurinaitis Linebacker
2 36 Cleveland Browns Brian Robiskie Wide receiver
4 102 Kansas City Chiefs Donald Washington Defensive Back
4 108 Miami Dolphins Brian Hartline Wide receiver
5 154 Chicago Bears Marcus Freeman Linebacker

Vernon Gholston should be removed from these lists. What a bust.

[TripletDaddy]

Yes, we are behind you in number of 1st round picks.

By one 1 believe.. Big Freaking deal...

The fact of the matter is it does not matter the number of players etc. But will the current coaches OL coach be able to help him progress to be a NFL player.. Both schools can do that. It only comes down to sunny skies or grey skies and sucky winters.. I hope he choses sucky winters..

The bottom line is awesomeness and radness.

SC simply has more of both.

And on Wednesday, SC will also have Seantrel Henderson.

PS I wish there was a way that we could settle this SC/tOSU debate on the field! It is a shame that we will never know which school was better in recent years....

[TripletDaddy]

When DDD plays the Heisman card, you need to play the Multiple Heisman card.

That actually hurts tOSU. They both have the same total number of Heismans trophies. tOSU produced fewer Heisman trophy winners, though.

Archie's second Heisman was a joke. Should have gone to Ricky Bell. Didn't Archie have something like 3 touchdowns in his second trophy year? It was pretty weak. his overall yardage wasn't even that good....1300 or thereabouts.

[dabrockster]

Where is Maurice Clarett on that current list?

Who??? Sorry, He has been erased from my mind completely..


That was a low blow DDD....


FYI: I have always hated him even when he played for us..

Fact: Who was the leading rusher for the national title game?? The QB and in fact he did a good amount of running for us throughout the season. He was the glue and the leader on the field.


Clarett has talent that went wasted by his ego the size of Ohio...

[il Padrino Ute]

That actually hurts tOSU. They both have the same total number of Heismans trophies. tOSU produced fewer Heisman trophy winners, though.

Archie's second Heisman was a joke. Should have gone to Ricky Bell. Didn't Archie have something like 3 touchdowns in his second trophy year? It was pretty weak. his overall yardage wasn't even that good....1300 or thereabouts.

It hurts total number of players who won the Heisman, but it helps tOSU in that only one school had a player who was the best player in college for two years. USC never had a player that good.

[il Padrino Ute]

Clarett has talent that went wasted by his ego the size of Ohio...

Ohio isn't a very big state.

[TripletDaddy]

It hurts total number of players who won the Heisman, but it helps tOSU in that only one school had a player who was the best player in college for two years. USC never had a player that good.

I just checked. Archie scored four TDs in his second Heisman year. FOUR. lol.

He won it because of his 100-yard game streak (admittedly impressive) not because he was the best player.

you could argue that statistically, Archie's second heisman year is one of the worst all time for someone at his position. His total yard was around 1350, which, again, isn't amazing by any stretch.

Bell was hurt by SC ending with 4 losses, despite his stats.

How many TDs did Max Hall score this past season? It had to be at least a couple, I would guess. He should have been a Heisman finalist.