Big 10 expansion talk heating up

[byu71]

According to your criteria BYU does an excellent job, but that is a very limited metric for measuring the intellectual activity of a university. When the presidents of the PAC 10 look at their peer institutions their criteria are very different.

As I said before, I think BYU is a fine institution for what it does. It has its limitations and problems, but anyone who suggests that as an institution it is on par with the research schools of the PAC 10 really has no idea what they are they are talking about.

We agree, anyone who puts BYU at the same level as the research schools in the PAC10 are blue eyed whatevers. Anybody who thinks more than a very small minority think that is any reason to keep BYU out of the PAC10 has their head solidly embedded in their rectum.

It is code for "we don't think our shit stinks". I guarantee you that the President of Stanfords shit stinks as bad as some drunk sitting on the street corner. The positive thing about the drunk is that he probably does know his shit stinks

However, I will walk around the office and see how many people, only 3 are BYU fans, think BYU should be kept out of the PAC10 because they are not a "research" University. I could be wrong.

[byu71]

Don't forget who makes the decision to expand. If they exclude BYU (likeliest scenario) all of those issues and reasons will be couched in the phrase "peer institution."

D'accord.

[UtahDan]

I think this is pretty simple. The PAC 10 doesn't want a parochial school in its conference. No one forces BYU to be one, it could adopt the Notre Dame model or that of some of the Jesuit schools like Georgetown or Gonzaga. But it doesn't, because its mission requires it to be what it is.

If the Bon Losee Academy of Hair or some other trade school had a good football team, would the PAC 10 want them? As a side note, if the church opened a beauty academy tomorrow it would instantly be top 100 in incoming freshman GPA and ACT scores. I'm serious.

[LA Ute]

As a side note, if the church opened a beauty academy tomorrow it would instantly be top 100 in incoming freshman GPA and ACT scores. I'm serious.

[LA Ute]

Of course. I'm not saying that "bigotry" actually means "ice cream". I'm saying that the fact of the matter is that no dictionary can dictate what things are deserving of respect. Ultimately, the meaning of bigotry is intolerance of things that society thinks should be tolerated.

I think the Mormon church is a bigoted organization because they're anti-gay, while others on here would say it's not bigoted to be anti-gay, since homosexuality is an abomination. Many people in the world think it's bigoted to speak out against those who contact the dead on behalf of their grieving widows, while I think the practice is a racket and that its practitioners should be mocked at every opportunity and possibly thrown in jail. Please explain where it is that the dictionary resolves these issues.

This has really gone on beyond a useful point, but in your examples you are arguing about whether a certain behavior meets the definition, not what the definition is.

In any event, if you ever call me an SOB, I think I will know what you mean.

[byu71]

I think this is pretty simple. The PAC 10 doesn't want a parochial school in its conference. No one forces BYU to be one, it could adopt the Notre Dame model or that of some of the Jesuit schools like Georgetown or Gonzaga. But it doesn't, because its mission requires it to be what it is.

If the Bon Losee Academy of Hair or some other trade school had a good football team, would the PAC 10 want them? As a side note, if the church opened a beauty academy tomorrow it would instantly be top 100 in incoming freshman GPA and ACT scores. I'm serious.

The intellectual dishonesty of some of these schools is astounding. As I have said over and over, academics my butt.

Why not have the intellectual integrity to come out and say. We consider Universities to be places where students can explore the far reaches of themselves and their minds. It is their chance to break their f'en bonds with their parents and be guided by the intellectual progressive thinking of educators who once tenured don't have to worry about f'en up. It would be contrary to our moral code to allow a University in the group whose goal is to supress freethinking and to make the students get on with their lives before exploring who they really are.

By the way, hearing Stanford would lead the charge in blocking BYU is beyond laughable. That high prinicipled basitan of progressive thought and political correctness. The very same institution that bears the name of a Robber Baron.

Another champion of education and the poor just like the Kennedy's. After they screw people over and get theirs, they move on to be Icons and champions of the poor and afflicted.

[UtahDan]

I thought everyone knew. Let me have my fun in peace!

[SeattleUte]

This article is written by a current BYU professor (nice find, Santos):

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.js...____&hideNav=1

"historical events" lol

Nothing more need be said about why the Pac 10 doesn't want to admit BYU.

[LiveCoug]

I thought everyone knew. Let me have my fun in peace!

Oops.. I thought this thread was...... .somewhere else. I'll delete.

[PaloAltoCougar]

As a side note, if the church opened a beauty academy tomorrow it would instantly be top 100 in incoming freshman GPA and ACT scores. I'm serious.

Like LA Ute, I agree. And the ones who couldn't get in would go to a state-run beauty academy.

[Viking]

He's not a broker! Don't talk about his profession.

blerg

[UtahDan]

Like LA Ute, I agree. And the ones who couldn't get in would go to a state-run beauty academy.

Would it be located in the same town or in Logan? Seriously though, my guess is that the church would convert a seminary building in a small Idaho town and they would all go there.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Utah should want BYU as its PAC-10 rival, if for no other reason that it gives Utah fans (who are a close second to BYU’s as the oddest and dorkiest fan base in the nation (a fact I cherish, not lament)) cover when the gentiles start mocking Mormondom. “No, you’re confusing us with those dweebs from Provo.

This doesn't help at the Utah/Oregon game there was some guy with a beard shouting at every Utah fan after the game to "Go home to their 9 wives and gold bible", I think there will still be confusion in P10 country.

[Jeff Lebowski]

This article is written by a current BYU professor (nice find, Santos):

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.js...____&hideNav=1

"historical events" lol

Nothing more need be said about why the Pac 10 doesn't want to admit BYU.

Nice find. Check out this quote:

1. Every time we hear foreign tongues (including English), we can be reminded that at one time “the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech” (Gen. 11:1). The hundreds of languages on the earth today stand as a witness that there existed long ago a tower of Babel in the land of Shinar.

[SeattleUte]

Nice find. Check out this quote:

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