Big 10 expansion talk heating up

[SeattleUte]

Much more credible speculation:

Pac-10 considers becoming Pac-12

His reasoning is sound except the BYU part is wishful thinking. The Pac 10 can't schedule BYU around Sunday games.

[SeattleUte]

This is late, but still worth it for me to respond:

Yes, I do. You just don't like that I'm a former dumb jock who sees right through your bullshit. It dampens your superiority complex because an idiot ball player who went to Marist isn't fooled by a bigot who went to law school at Georgetown.

Would you like me to provide yet another link to the definition of bigotry so you can read it for yourself?

It's not bigotry to reject BYU's values as incompatible with the Pac 10. Pac 10 schools have in the past condemned LDS racism, and boycotted BYU for that reason; same with BYU's retaliation against professors for things they've said. The Pac 10 also has stated a preference for a school that places a high value on research.

[il Padrino Ute]

It's not bigotry to reject BYU's values as incompatible with the Pac 10. Pac 10 schools have in the past condemned LDS racism, and boycotted BYU for that reason; same with BYU's retaliation against professors for things they've said. The Pac 10 also has stated a preference for a school that places a high value on research.

"We can't accept BYU's no Sunday play policy" is a euphamism for "BYU scares us because it's too religious; it gives us the heebeejeebees and always has; we can't deal with clerics spouting the GC intonation calling themselves university presidents, trustees, athletic directors, and football coaches. There is also a little problem with the LDS Church's assassination of gay marriage in California and the racist past that has not been addressed. Sorry, just being honest. We wouldn't feel comfortable with BYU in our conference. No Sunday play, like no research, is more a metaphore than a real problem. It's cultural stupid."

I highlighted the bigotry for you. You display intolerance for the LDS church in this post and that intolerance is defined as bigotry.

Just man up and admit it. Everyone already knows it.

[SeattleUte]

I highlighted the bigotry for you. You display intolerance for the LDS church in this post and that intolerance is defined as bigotry.

Just man up and admit it. Everyone already knows it.

Right. Past but unacknowledged racism, anti-intellectualism (at a university!), homophobia, gives some people the heebeejeebees. That's bigotry?

[il Padrino Ute]

Right. Past but unacknowledged racism, anti-intellectualism (at a university!), homophobia, gives some people the heebeejeebees. That's bigotry?

Would you like me to provide a link (again) to the definition of bigotry?

[Viking]

byu had produced ten rhodes scholars, harvey fletcher, philo farnsworth, mitt, kim clark, paul boyer, gary crittenden, kevin rollins, etc. comparisons are all well and good, but to say that byu is somehow inadequate in any way is just inaccurate according to available data and prominence of alumni.

Kim Clark transferred to Harvard after his mission. No doubt BYU has some notables but that % is low compared to the alumni base. We need to step it up 71.

[Viking]

I am familiar with what Viking does for a living and those guys are wound tight. Pretty darn stressful jobs. Especially when they are short the market and it goes up 150.

Try 4% in brazil, but we are mkt neutral to low net by strategy so that comes w the territory.

[Viking]

This would depend at least in part on what you did while at said schools. I did two majors at BYU. One was much more difficult than the other. You could get in and out of BYU without breaking a sweat if you really wanted to, or it could be one of the most difficult things you ever did.

Econ and poli sci. Econ was fun and a good challenge at times. Poli Sci was a joke, especially anything by Taylor

[Viking]

Wait, so the school you attended and your former religion are fair game, but your job is off-limits?

Whatever you do for a living, it keeps you wound pretty tightly. You seem to live a humorless existence.

IIRC you are on record as agreeing that going after someones career is low brow. I did this once and got hammered for it.

Still waiting for you to refute that BYu is not a mediocre school.

[All-American]

There are volumes written about how the US news rankings are basically horse shit outside the top twenty.

Yes I analyze financial data and I'm pretty fucking good at it. I don't take potshots at your job, don't take them at mine

All the more reason not to hire you as a broker, then.

[All-American]

Econ and poli sci. Econ was fun and a good challenge at times. Poli Sci was a joke, especially anything by Taylor

I took one Econ class (from Clayne Pope) and one PlSc class and I would tend to agree. I have understood that BYU's Econ department is pretty reputable.

[pellegrino]

I looked and found PAC10 schools Oregon St., AU, Arizona St. and UCLA.

I also found Ohio St., Depaul, SMU, Texas A&M, Colorado. Syracuse, Indiana and Michigan St.

If you want dissapointment, look up Washington St

I looked up USC and BYU was on the list of comparable schools.


I was expecting to find Bob Jones, but didn't.

I think your comparables are skewed. I've searched over a dozen different ways and I can't get BYU listed as similar to any PAC 10 institution. It has brought up South Dakota State, Michigan Technology Institute, and Old Dominion University quite a few times though.

[woot]

Would you like me to provide a link (again) to the definition of bigotry?

It seems to me that there are two different definitions of bigotry at play here. The one favored by iPU is one that includes the worship of various fictional entities in the category of born attributes like race or sex. The one favored by SU includes belief in zombies or fairies or magical books in the same category as astrology, psychic powers, or 2012 armageddonists . We "tolerate" them because it's important that thought not be censored, but we have no respect for their silly beliefs. Su would argue that this doesn't make him a bigot, you argue it does. I don't think the dictionary helps here.

[byu71]

I think your comparables are skewed. I've searched over a dozen different ways and I can't get BYU listed as similar to any PAC 10 institution. It has brought up South Dakota State, Michigan Technology Institute, and Old Dominion University quite a few times though.

I went to the site and clicked I think the first box, the one that said undergraduate.

I try to keep it simple. Remember, I graduated from BYU and the U. My training does not let me deal with complicated things or do research.

[byu71]

It seems to me that there are two different definitions of bigotry at play here. The one favored by iPU is one that includes the worship of various fictional entities in the category of born attributes like race or sex. The one favored by SU includes belief in zombies or fairies or magical books in the same category as astrology, psychic powers, or 2012 armageddonists . We "tolerate" them because it's important that thought not be censored, but we have no respect for their silly beliefs. Su would argue that this doesn't make him a bigot, you argue it does. I don't think the dictionary helps here.

According to Websters definition, I would say SU has met the criteria of being a bigot. Why should I accept someone else's definition.

I should note though I do not consider him a bigot. His trolling personna is bigoted, I really don't think he actually is.