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  • #61
    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
    I just think it's dumb to argue about which team's fans are better or that when or how someone became a fan has anything at all to do with the quality of football (or basketball, or baseball, or bocce ball) that is being played. Junkie started this thread just to push people's buttons. Lame.
    Especially because we know that :byu1: fans are the most .

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    • #62
      Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      Especially because we know that :byu1: fans are the most .
      I believe this was taken just after a Young Men gathering at Sundance. Notice the Honor Code-compliant haircut:

      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
      ― W.H. Auden


      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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      • #63
        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
        I am curious as to what people think on here. Is the obsession to pat oneself on the back for being "true", a mormon BYU fan thing or is it pretty typical with fandom everywhere. Pointing to others and indicating "I" am more "true" than you.

        It is curious that such feelings come from a culture that encourages others to break with their allegiences and change.
        Im not sure about being true. I am talking about being a bandwagon fan. You can be a bandwagon fan and still really like the team, I suppose (be "true)".

        Some here have admitted to switching allegiances between rivals after the one program starts getting good....not before.

        I am pretty sure that sort of behavior is frowned upon in any sports culture. Bandwagon fans are part of sports, I guess, so to that extent, they play a necessary role in the sports food chain (much like parasites).

        Actually, I would think this is not unique to Mormon sports at all.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
          Next question is there a fan of the Utes that is LDS who did not turn down some form of scholarship to the BYU?
          I grew up LDS, and never thought twice about BYU.

          My major was Computer Science. BYU's CS was a total joke back then. It's only a slight joke now, so it has improved.

          U-Ute

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          • #65
            Originally posted by venkman View Post
            My unscientific opinion is that of guys 30-40 who grew up in Utah, at least half were BYU fans at one point.
            People who were young and impressionable children during the BYU glory days may have hopped onto the bandwagon?

            I'm shocked you would even suggestion such a thing.

            U-Ute

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            • #66
              Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
              I believe this was taken just after a Young Men gathering at Sundance. Notice the Honor Code-compliant haircut:

              Hey, you're the dude that's supposed to be taking care of the Young Men. Who planned that activity anyway?

              I just noticed that in addition to the 4 polos, the dude also has a green t-shirt on. 5 layers!
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                Hey, you're the dude that's supposed to be taking care of the Young Men. Who planned that activity anyway?

                I just noticed that in addition to the 4 polos, the dude also has a green t-shirt on. 5 layers!
                I am dating myself here but the Young Men was a service club (the BYU equivalent of a frat) at the Y when I was young.
                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                ― W.H. Auden


                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                • #68
                  I turned down a law scholarship at BYU. I didn't apply to BYU for college. Sorry, juste being honest!
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    Im not sure about being true. I am talking about being a bandwagon fan. You can be a bandwagon fan and still really like the team, I suppose (be "true)".

                    Some here have admitted to switching allegiances between rivals after the one program starts getting good....not before.

                    I am pretty sure that sort of behavior is frowned upon in any sports culture. Bandwagon fans are part of sports, I guess, so to that extent, they play a necessary role in the sports food chain (much like parasites).

                    Actually, I would think this is not unique to Mormon sports at all.
                    Maybe after being a devoted fan of the Cougars for 35 years, the very hint of being called a bandwaggoner feels like an effort to kick me in the nuts.

                    Actually, I don't care much after the initial attempt.

                    I certainly got on board due to BYU getting good. If they had stayed the way they were in the 50's and 60's I doubt I ever would have been a fan. Actually, if I went with my heart I would be pulling for the Aggies, but I am a value guy.

                    That's why given a chance to look at a photo spread of a 60 year old ex heartthrob or one of the current lookers, my heart would say be true to the heartthrobs you knew as a kid, my brain would pick the current looker.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                      Maybe after being a devoted fan of the Cougars for 35 years, the very hint of being called a bandwaggoner feels like an effort to kick me in the nuts.

                      Actually, I don't care much after the initial attempt.

                      I certainly got on board due to BYU getting good. If they had stayed the way they were in the 50's and 60's I doubt I ever would have been a fan. Actually, if I went with my heart I would be pulling for the Aggies, but I am a value guy.

                      That's why given a chance to look at a photo spread of a 60 year old ex heartthrob or one of the current lookers, my heart would say be true to the heartthrobs you knew as a kid, my brain would pick the current looker.
                      I didn't think you were bandwagon fan. Are you? I always assumed you were a BYU fan, not a Utah fan.

                      Of course, today seems to be a day of shocking revelation across the board. You can never be quite sure about another, it seems.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        I didn't think you were bandwagon fan. Are you? I always assumed you were a BYU fan, not a Utah fan.

                        Of course, today seems to be a day of shocking revelation across the board. You can never be quite sure about another, it seems.
                        If you describe someone as a bandwaggon fan by being someone who didn't remain loyal, well then yea I guess I am a bandwaggoner. My teenage years and college years, my football loyalty went to USU, Utah and BYU in that order. BB, Utah, USU and BYU in that order, but they were very close.

                        Schools I liked. USU Utah BYU.

                        Of course my allegience to BYU after having bandwaggoned on in the early 70's has brought me to prefer BYU over the other two. It is now BYU Utah USU, school wise. Sports wise BYU Utah, USU. Except for rivalry week, I don't have this hate thing for Utah.


                        I guess that is why if BYU becomes a ultra conservative fortification and slides in athletic prowess, I don't think it would be too hard for me to find a place more suitable to my beliefs.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                          If you describe someone as a bandwaggon fan by being someone who didn't remain loyal, well then yea I guess I am a bandwaggoner. My teenage years and college years, my football loyalty went to USU, Utah and BYU in that order. BB, Utah, USU and BYU in that order, but they were very close.

                          Schools I liked. USU Utah BYU.

                          Of course my allegience to BYU after having bandwaggoned on in the early 70's has brought me to prefer BYU over the other two. It is now BYU Utah USU, school wise. Sports wise BYU Utah, USU. Except for rivalry week, I don't have this hate thing for Utah.


                          I guess that is why if BYU becomes a ultra conservative fortification and slides in athletic prowess, I don't think it would be too hard for me to find a place more suitable to my beliefs.
                          so you liked BYU when BYU stunk?

                          If you switch to from the U to a crappy BYU team in the early 70s, how can you be a bandwagon fan? By definition there is no bandwagon.

                          If you switch from the U to BYU once they are dominating the WAC in the 80s, then yes....that is being a bandwagon fan.

                          35 years later and you have been adopted into the fold, but your roots are tainted a bit by the stain, I suppose.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            so you liked BYU when BYU stunk?
                            BYU went to the Fiesta Bowl (or was it the FIESTA BOWL) in 74. OK, that's the middle 70s but 7-4 in 1972.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by pelagius View Post
                              BYU went to the Fiesta Bowl (or was it the FIESTA BOWL) in 74. OK, that's the middle 70s but 7-4 in 1972.
                              Point of clarification: The Fiesta Bowl wasn't played on New Year's day then, was it.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                Point of clarification: The Fiesta Bowl wasn't played on New Year's day then, was it.
                                It was a brand new bowl game as I recall. That's the only way a 7-4 WAC team would have been in it.
                                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                                ― W.H. Auden


                                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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