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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    Plus a coal miner doesn't make the scratch to help fund a private university.
    You know how cheap BYU is right? I was at the Y while my sisters were at the U. Our tuition payments were very close.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

    Dig your own grave, and save!

    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • #32
      My unscientific opinion is that of guys 30-40 who grew up in Utah, at least half were BYU fans at one point.

      I base this off of friends from my home ward and high school who I've reconnected with via facebook. The vast majority of them were BYU fans growing up and most now seem to be ute fans given all the ute facebook groups they belong to.
      "Remember to double tap"

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      • #33
        Count me as a lifelong Ute fan. Growing up in the 80's I was one of the few in the stands at Rice stadium, and one of the many in the seats of the Special Events Center.

        I was the only Ute fan my age in my ward and elemetary school. I lost a lot of sprite's making bets with my friends on the Utah/BYU football games that decade.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by venkman View Post
          My unscientific opinion is that of guys 30-40 who grew up in Utah, at least half were BYU fans at one point.

          I base this off of friends from my home ward and high school who I've reconnected with via facebook. The vast majority of them were BYU fans growing up and most now seem to be ute fans given all the ute facebook groups they belong to.
          I have some unscientific data to add that supports your opinion.

          For those same 30 to 40 year-olds, BYU was winning like crazy during their youth. They were the best college show in town, and lots of people enjoyed watching them and became fans. These same dudes later went to school at the U and football doesn't really factor into education choices. Later still, the Utes start winning, and these guys start making the change. They've got the undergrad foundation to rely on as well. The Utes go to the Fiesta Bowl, and tons of those who were cougar supporters in their youth become die-hard Ute fans. The Sugar Bowl pours gas on the fire.
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by falafel View Post
            The Sugar Bowl pours gas sugar on the fire me.
            Yes...yes it does

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
              Is it really? We have learned that UtahDan, SU, DU, and LA have all been BYU fans at one time or another. What a dumb question to ask.
              I have always been a U fan above all else, I just didn't hate the Y until I grew up.
              "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
              "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
              "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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              • #37
                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                I have some unscientific data to add that supports your opinion.

                For those same 30 to 40 year-olds, BYU was winning like crazy during their youth. They were the best college show in town, and lots of people enjoyed watching them and became fans. These same dudes later went to school at the U and football doesn't really factor into education choices. Later still, the Utes start winning, and these guys start making the change. They've got the undergrad foundation to rely on as well. The Utes go to the Fiesta Bowl, and tons of those who were cougar supporters in their youth become die-hard Ute fans. The Sugar Bowl pours gas on the fire.
                Which brings up another interesting question.

                What portion of the BYU fan base is there because of how good the program is and has been from a purely football perspective.

                What portion of the BYU fan base is there because of the "mission statement"of BYU and their love for BYU.

                My contention has been and will be, both bases are needed. To tell one base or the other to take a hike reminds me of the Limbaugh, Hannity and Becks of the world.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by falafel View Post
                  You know how cheap BYU is right? I was at the Y while my sisters were at the U. Our tuition payments were very close.
                  My parents were not in much position to give us any support, and they discouraged us from working in high school so that we could have fun and concentrate on school.


                  I went to CEU for 2 years basically for free (full ride, living at home), went to SUU for 2 years at 1/3 the price of UU or BYU(3/4 ride academic so basically cost of living was it). I finished 4 years of school with $2000.00 student loan debt. I then went to Med school at the U and discovered what real student debt was all about.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by falafel View Post
                    I have some unscientific data to add that supports your opinion.

                    For those same 30 to 40 year-olds, BYU was winning like crazy during their youth. They were the best college show in town, and lots of people enjoyed watching them and became fans. These same dudes later went to school at the U and football doesn't really factor into education choices. Later still, the Utes start winning, and these guys start making the change. They've got the undergrad foundation to rely on as well. The Utes go to the Fiesta Bowl, and tons of those who were cougar supporters in their youth become die-hard Ute fans. The Sugar Bowl pours gas on the fire.
                    I think that's exactly how it happened for many of them.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      that were not BYU fans at one point?

                      Serious question I know several Ute fans (and stories on this board have added a few to the list) that were at one time BYU fans and switched allegiances.
                      I know plenty of people who as kids were Utah fans and switched to BYU. Most of them did so during the early 80s.

                      The fact is, the great majority of people who are true fans become fans of the school they attended, because those years are when you develop a close attachment to the school and its traditions. Sure, there are exceptions, but that's how it works for most.

                      Come up with some decent rivalry smack, you warthog-faced buffoon.
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


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                      • #41
                        Born a ute.
                        Went to every home game with my dad as far back as I can remember.
                        Never rooted for the byu. Ever. Even when my seminary teacher said that a 1984 bowl win would greatly help out the missionary efforts around the world.
                        I intend to live forever.
                        So far, so good.
                        --Steven Wright

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                          I know plenty of people who as kids were Utah fans and switched to BYU. Most of them did so during the early 80s.

                          The fact is, the great majority of people who are true fans become fans of the school they attended, because those years are when you develop a close attachment to the school and its traditions. Sure, there are exceptions, but that's how it works for most.

                          Come up with some decent rivalry smack, you warthog-faced buffoon.
                          "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
                          "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
                          "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                            that were not BYU fans at one point?

                            Serious question I know several Ute fans (and stories on this board have added a few to the list) that were at one time BYU fans and switched allegiances.
                            http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showpo...2&postcount=34
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                              that were not BYU fans at one point?

                              Serious question I know several Ute fans (and stories on this board have added a few to the list) that were at one time BYU fans and switched allegiances.
                              I have never been a BYU fan.
                              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                              --Kendrick Lamar

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                                Next question is there a fan of the Utes that is LDS who did not turn down some form of scholarship to the BYU?
                                I didn't turn down a scholarship to BYU, they had no interest in giving me a scholarship.
                                As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                                --Kendrick Lamar

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