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  • #76
    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
    If someone left the LDS church and stopped cheering for BYU, I wouldn't criticize. The interesting thing is that some of the best BYU fans here are non-practicing LDS.
    Conversely, is someone a true BYU fan, or true member of the church for that matter, if they switched up allegiances and joined the church in high school or college? Some of us go back to pioneers, you know. We didn't join at the point when the church started being more than just a Utah church.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
      Conversely, is someone a true BYU fan, or true member of the church for that matter, if they switched up allegiances and joined the church in high school or college? Some of us go back to pioneers, you know. We didn't join at the point when the church started being more than just a Utah church.
      He just took a head shot at 3D!! OMG! I hope 3D doesn't leave the Church over this. This reminds me of the end of the Boise-Oregon game this year.
      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

      --Jonathan Swift

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      • #78
        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        He just took a head shot at 3D!! OMG! I hope 3D doesn't leave the Church over this. This reminds me of the end of the Boise-Oregon game this year.
        Ha! You just wish you could think of a way to get him to leave the church. Leading away the simple souls who stay is your sine qua non.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
          Point of clarification: The Fiesta Bowl wasn't played on New Year's day then, was it.
          LOL, for a brief moment you were worried ... No, it wasn't ... it was essentially equivalent to what the Holiday Bowl became. A little better because the Arizona schools were still in the conference (which is why it was a WAC bowl at that point).

          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
          It was a brand new bowl game as I recall. That's the only way a 7-4 WAC team would have been in it.
          I think it started a few year earlier ... 71?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by pelagius View Post
            LOL, for a brief moment you were worried ... No, it wasn't ... it was essentially equivalent to what the Holiday Bowl became. A little better because the Arizona schools were still in the conference (which is why it was a WAC bowl at that point).

            I think it started a few year earlier ... 71?
            Yep, 1971. History here. It became a New year's Day Bowl in 1982. I was pretty young when it started but was following sports - it seems to me that the Fiesta began as a place for Arizona State to play a bowl game. The WAC got little respect then (as now). The Sun Devils went the first few years, then BYU in 1974, and ASU beat Nebraska in 1975 and ended up ranked no. 2 that year. It was the highest ranking ever for a WAC team until 1984, when . . . .

            Anyway, I do remember that ASU was the unbeatable beast of the old WAC until they took off to the PAC-10 (and haven't been heard from much since).
            “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
            ― W.H. Auden


            "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
            -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


            "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
            --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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            • #81
              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
              Is it really? We have learned that UtahDan, SU, DU, and LA have all been BYU fans at one time or another. What a dumb question to ask.
              Did UtahDan go to BYU at some point? If so, I swear I know the guy...

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              • #82
                Originally posted by pelagius View Post
                LOL, for a brief moment you were worried ... No, it wasn't ... it was essentially equivalent to what the Holiday Bowl became. A little better because the Arizona schools were still in the conference (which is why it was a WAC bowl at that point).



                I think it started a few year earlier ... 71?
                These are great reactions from our Ute Fan cousins.

                "BYU went to the Fiesta Bowl in the '70s."
                Ute Fan: "Ahhh, that was before it was a New Year's Day bowl, correct?"

                "Ty Detmer was a great quarterback."
                Ute Fan: "Ahhh, Ty Detmer was a good college quaterback."

                "BYU was football national champions in 1984."
                Ute Fan: "Ahhh, that was a mythical national championship."

                "Steve Young blah blah blah blah."
                Ute Fan: "Steve Young is gay."

                It's pavlovian. Any more of these out there?
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                  That's one occasion where it's permissible to utter STFU in church.
                  No argument from me. Same rule applies when a speaker at a stake priesthood meeting starts his talk with a minute-long gloat session about a BYU win the previous day. He is actually a nice guy but blew that one.
                  “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                  ― W.H. Auden


                  "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                  -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                  "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                  --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                    These are great reactions from our Ute Fan cousins.

                    "BYU went to the Fiesta Bowl in the '70s."
                    Ute Fan: "Ahhh, that was before it was a New Year's Day bowl, correct?"

                    "Ty Detmer was a great quarterback."
                    Ute Fan: "Ahhh, Ty Detmer was a good college quaterback."

                    "BYU was football national champions in 1984."
                    Ute Fan: "Ahhh, that was a mythical national championship."

                    "Steve Young blah blah blah blah."
                    Ute Fan: "Steve Young is gay."

                    It's pavlovian. Any more of these out there?
                    For the record when BYU went to that Fiesta Bowl that was a significant accomplishment. I was happy. I don't mean to denigrate that, was just trying to remember the history.
                    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                    ― W.H. Auden


                    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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