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  • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    In a recent interview, Pippen said if the '96 Bulls could play today's Dubs, he'd guard Curry and limit him to below 20, while Jordan would defend Thompson. I assume that would leave our NoKo ambassador, Dennis Rodman to defend Draymond and I think that would be a fun battle, with Green getting the better of it by taking Rodman outside where he was never very comfortable. The Bulls' top two would be better than the Warriors', but I'd expect the rest of the Warriors, with a better bench, would make it a very interesting game.
    I think Pippen is kidding himself. The older and fatter we get the faster and better we were.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    • Pippen's a moron - he acts as if no wing ever dropped 30 on the Bulls. You take Pippen over Draymond, but Draymond is a better player overall than Rodman and I'd take him over Kukoc.

      which team would win or who is better is an impossible question to answer, but creekster is absolutely right that the older and fatter we get the faster and better we were, but more than that, when Pippen talks, the bias is off the charts. I think Ty Detmer is the greatest offensive player ever to play college football - I'm biased - multiply that bias by about 100 when Pippen is offering an opinion on Bulls v Warriors. He has no credibility.

      Also, all the talk of "physical play" back in the day is ridiculously overrated.

      The way I see it, because it's an impossible question to answer, if the Warriors win 73, they are the better team by default.
      Last edited by smokymountainrain; 04-11-2016, 01:43 PM.
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      • Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
        Pippen's a moron - he acts as if no wing ever dropped 30 on the Bulls. You take Pippen over Draymond, but Draymond is a better player overall than Rodman and I'd take him over Kukoc.

        which team would win or who is better is an impossible question to answer, but creekster is absolutely right that the older and fatter we get the faster and better we were, but more than that, when Pippen talks, the bias is off the charts. I think Ty Detmer is the greatest offensive player ever to play college football - I'm biased - multiply that bias by about 100 when Pippen is offering an opinion on Bulls v Warriors. He has no credibility.

        Also, all the talk of "physical play" back in the day is ridiculously overrated.

        The way I see it, because it's an impossible question to answer, if the Warriors win 73 and the title, they are the better team by default.
        FIFY
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        • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
          FIFY
          yes. that too.
          I'm like LeBron James.
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          • The Bulls shot 16.5 three pointers per game and made 40.3%. Their opponents shot 15.2 per game and made 35%. Warriors shoot 31.4 a game and make 41.5%. It's a completely different style than the Bulls saw, and I don't think they could stop it. The Warriors would have their heads spinning with the way they pass the ball around, and there would be driving lanes open constantly. I also believe team defense principles have evolved such that the Warriors D would be better than any D the Bulls faced that year. I don't think it would be close.

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            • Pippen would guard Curry


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              • Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                The Bulls shot 16.5 three pointers per game and made 40.3%. Their opponents shot 15.2 per game and made 35%. Warriors shoot 31.4 a game and make 41.5%. It's a completely different style than the Bulls saw, and I don't think they could stop it. The Warriors would have their heads spinning with the way they pass the ball around, and there would be driving lanes open constantly. I also believe team defense principles have evolved such that the Warriors D would be better than any D the Bulls faced that year. I don't think it would be close.
                I agree completely. Of course this Golden State team and the Spurs this year are far better than any of those Bulls teams. I personally even think Cleveland and OKC are probably better.

                The NBA in general and especially the elite teams have come a long way in understanding of offensive and defensive principles and in generating efficient scoring. Teams in the 90s were still just clearing out and going one-on-one when they really needed a bucket.

                I think all this talk about about the hand checking rules is totally irrelevant too. When you whip the ball around and shoot an open corner 3 (the most efficient shot in basketball) like GSW and the Spurs who gives a shit about hand checking?

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                • I'm of the opinion that winning 73 stands on its own and doesn't need to be validated by winning it all.

                  Here is a list of NBA Champions since 1947, and NONE of them won 73 games, and neither did any other team that didn't win a Championship. Champions come and go, but 73 has NEVER been done by anybody at anytime, and that feat is greater than a Championship because the body of work, and the other teams getting in line to beat them every night. No team may ever beat the number 73, and if Jordan and the Bulls couldn't do it - who will? I predict I will die with no other team winning 74 games in a single season.

                  2015 Golden State Warriors 4-2 Cleveland Cavaliers
                  2014 San Antonio Spurs 4-1 Miami Heat
                  2013 Miami Heat 4-3 San Antonio Spurs
                  2012 Miami Heat 4-1 Oklahoma City Thunder
                  2011 Dallas Mavericks 4-2 Miami Heat
                  2010 Los Angeles Lakers 4-3 Boston Celtics
                  2009 Los Angeles Lakers 4-1 Orlando Magic
                  2008 Boston Celtics 4-2 Los Angeles Lakers
                  2007 San Antonio Spurs 4-0 Cleveland Cavaliers
                  2006 Miami Heat 4-2 Dallas Mavericks
                  2005 San Antonio Spurs 4-3 Detroit Pistons
                  2004 Detroit Pistons 4-1 Los Angeles Lakers
                  2003 San Antonio Spurs 4-2 New Jersey Nets
                  2002 Los Angeles Lakers 4-0 New Jersey Nets
                  2001 Los Angeles Lakers 4-1 Philadelphia 76ers
                  2000 Los Angeles Lakers 4-2 Indiana Pacers
                  1999 San Antonio Spurs 4-1 New York Knicks
                  1998 Chicago Bulls 4-2 Utah Jazz
                  1997 Chicago Bulls 4-2 Utah Jazz
                  1996 Chicago Bulls 4-2 Seattle SuperSonics
                  1995 Houston Rockets 4-0 Orlando Magic
                  1994 Houston Rockets 4-3 New York Knicks
                  1993 Chicago Bulls 4-2 Phoenix Suns
                  1992 Chicago Bulls 4-2 Portland Trail Blazers
                  1991 Chicago Bulls 4-1 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1990 Detroit Pistons 4-1 Portland Trail Blazers
                  1989 Detroit Pistons 4-0 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1988 Los Angeles Lakers 4-3 Detroit Pistons
                  1987 Los Angeles Lakers 4-2 Boston Celtics
                  1986 Boston Celtics 4-2 Houston Rockets
                  1985 Los Angeles Lakers 4-2 Boston Celtics
                  1984 Boston Celtics 4-3 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1983 Philadelphia 76ers 4-0 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1982 Los Angeles Lakers 4-2 Philadelphia 76ers
                  1981 Boston Celtics 4-2 Houston Rockets
                  1980 Los Angeles Lakers 4-2 Philadelphia 76ers
                  1979 Seattle SuperSonics 4-1 Washington Bullets
                  1978 Washington Bullets 4-3 Seattle SuperSonics
                  1977 Portland Trail Blazers 4-2 Philadelphia 76ers
                  1976 Boston Celtics 4-2 Phoenix Suns
                  1975 Golden State Warriors 4-0 Washington Bullets
                  1974 Boston Celtics 4-3 Milwaukee Bucks
                  1973 New York Knicks 4-1 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1972 Los Angeles Lakers 4-1 New York Knicks
                  1971 Milwaukee Bucks 4-0 Baltimore Bullets
                  1970 New York Knicks 4-3 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1969 Boston Celtics 4-3 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1968 Boston Celtics 4-2 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1967 Philadelphia 76ers 4-2 San Francisco Warriors
                  1966 Boston Celtics 4-3 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1965 Boston Celtics 4-1 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1964 Boston Celtics 4-1 San Francisco Warriors
                  1963 Boston Celtics 4-2 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1962 Boston Celtics 4-3 Los Angeles Lakers
                  1961 Boston Celtics 4-1 St. Louis Hawks
                  1960 Boston Celtics 4-3 St. Louis Hawks
                  1959 Boston Celtics 4-0 Minneapolis Lakers
                  1958 St. Louis Hawks 4-2 Boston Celtics
                  1957 Boston Celtics 4-3 St. Louis Hawks
                  1956 Philadelphia Warriors 4-1 Fort Wayne Pistons
                  1955 Syracuse Nationals 4-3 Fort Wayne Pistons
                  1954 Minneapolis Lakers 4-3 Syracuse Nationals
                  1953 Minneapolis Lakers 4-1 New York Knicks
                  1952 Minneapolis Lakers 4-3 New York Knicks
                  1951 Rochester Royals 4-3 New York Knicks
                  1950 Minneapolis Lakers 4-2 Syracuse Nationals
                  1949 Minneapolis Lakers 4-2 Washington Capitols
                  1948 Baltimore Bullets 4-2 Philadelphia Warriors
                  1947 Philadelphia Warriors 4-1 Chicago
                  Last edited by clackamascoug; 04-12-2016, 12:25 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                    An interesting (at least to GS fans and to anyone interested in how to run an NBA team in today's environment) NYT article about how the change in ownership lifted the Warriors from the depths of mediocrity to become a very strong franchise.

                    Among the interesting bits was the infamous moment when at the Mullin award ceremony the fans booed the new principal owner for trading Monta Ellis:
                    I'm not sure Jerry West gets enough credit for the brilliant job he has done wherever he has gone. He kept the Lakers at the top while he was GM there and although his contributions may be limited in GS they are at the top. He also was my favorite player growing up so I may be a little bias but I don't think so.

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                    • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                      I'm not sure Jerry West gets enough credit for the brilliant job he has done wherever he has gone. He kept the Lakers at the top while he was GM there and although his contributions may be limited in GS they are at the top. He also was my favorite player growing up so I may be a little bias but I don't think so.
                      He did a great job in Memphis also. Jerry West is a witch.
                      A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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                      • West played a significant role in the Warriors' trade of Monta Ellis for Bogut, which resulted in the owner getting booed lustily by the crowd during a ceremony for Chris Mullin. Ellis had actually been West's (not to mention the fan base's) favorite player, but he said making the change would create a much better future line-up for GS. Not only did the Warriors get a good center, the trade allowed them to move Ellis's back-up to a starting role. Thus the Steph Curry Era began. West has a lot better vision and more guts than most front office guys.

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                        • If this game was competitive, Curry could have scored 60 points.
                          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                          • I cannot tell you how badly I want the Jazz to beat the Lakers tonight. The Kobe love tonight has been nauseating. I wonder if the good citizens of Eagle, Colorado recall his antics as fondly as does ESPN?
                            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                            • Kobe -- what a narcissist! Dude is going to almost get 50 shots tonight.

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                              • What's the NBA record for fga's? And it's pretty amazing that he can still do this under any circumstances

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