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  • Donuthole
    Official Outgayer
    • Nov 2008
    • 25303

    #961
    Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
    Disagree.

    With A.I instead of Chauncy.,,,,they wouldn't have won the Northwest Division much less be in the WCF.

    Nene is good and a great feel good story, but Chauncey is a much bigger key to their success than Nene.
    I didn't say Billups wasn't a bigger key than Nene. I just said he gets too much credit (mainly, because he's getting almost ALL the credit). Denver only won 4 more games this year than they did last year. They ended up playing arguably the two worst teams in the entire western conference in the first two rounds. I don't disagree that the absence of AI is the real story, however. Much moreso than Billups. Hell, they could have traded AI for Aaron Brooks, and they would likely have improved by 4 games.
    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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    • Donuthole
      Official Outgayer
      • Nov 2008
      • 25303

      #962
      Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
      I agree. Billups is/was and will be the key for Denver's success. If anything, I would say he was not given enough credit for the Detroit Championship and final appearances.
      He was awarded the Finals MVP. What higher credit can be assessed him?
      Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

      There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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      • Coach McGuirk
        1
        • Nov 2008
        • 12109

        #963
        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
        He was awarded the Finals MVP. What higher credit can be assessed him?

        Someone had to get it. You have to admit that all anyone talked about is how Detroit was winning without a star. Hell, even Dan Patrick recognized this.

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        • Donuthole
          Official Outgayer
          • Nov 2008
          • 25303

          #964
          Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
          Someone had to get it. You have to admit that all anyone talked about is how Detroit was winning without a star. Hell, even Dan Patrick recognized this.
          They were winning without a star. They were winning with 3 second bananas, and no superstars. Probably the only championship team ever that won't have a top 50 all time player, when all is said and done. Top 100, even.
          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

          There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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          • RockyBalboa
            Banned
            • Nov 2008
            • 2127

            #965
            Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
            I didn't say Billups wasn't a bigger key than Nene. I just said he gets too much credit (mainly, because he's getting almost ALL the credit). Denver only won 4 more games this year than they did last year. They ended up playing arguably the two worst teams in the entire western conference in the first two rounds. I don't disagree that the absence of AI is the real story, however. Much moreso than Billups. Hell, they could have traded AI for Aaron Brooks, and they would likely have improved by 4 games.
            Semantics about the "credit thing".

            I think he deserves the accolades going his way and you think they're overblown and that's fine.

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            • Coach McGuirk
              1
              • Nov 2008
              • 12109

              #966
              Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
              They were winning without a star. They were winning with 3 second bananas, and no superstars. Probably the only championship team ever that won't have a top 50 all time player, when all is said and done. Top 100, even.
              You are going to win this argument because you are right. Any attempt I make to prove otherwise can be thwarted by facts.

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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #967
                Gutty win for the Lakers. Actually showed me something. Melo was insane. Watching him and Kobe go back and forth and bang down low was really fun. I am with you DDD on the officiating. I thought everyone was going to foul out the first three quarters. The refs were very inconsistent. Kobe was killing me. He should have dominated Carter, Billups, and Jones in the post. But kept settling for jumpers. But the jerk ended up willing this Laker team to victory.

                It was a win. And I'll take it.
                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
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                • FN Phat
                  I ♥ gateway sex
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 8691

                  #968
                  Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
                  Disagree.

                  With A.I instead of Chauncy.,,,,they wouldn't have won the Northwest Division much less be in the WCF.

                  Nene is good and a great feel good story, but Chauncey is a much bigger key to their success than Nene.
                  All this talk of Chauncy and Nene and no talk of Melo?

                  True his numbers are down...and that is a good thing. He is playing the best ball of his career. Truly being unselfish, better shot selections, and a new commitment to defense.

                  This is, and has always been, Melo's team and he is now playing the part.
                  I'm your huckleberry.


                  "I love pulling the bone. Really though, what guy doesn't?" - CJF

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                  • FN Phat
                    I ♥ gateway sex
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 8691

                    #969
                    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                    Gutty win for the Lakers. Actually showed me something. Melo was insane. Watching him and Kobe go back and forth and bang down low was really fun. I am with you DDD on the officiating. I thought everyone was going to foul out the first three quarters. The refs were very inconsistent. Kobe was killing me. He should have dominated Carter, Billups, and Jones in the post. But kept settling for jumpers. But the jerk ended up willing this Laker team to victory.

                    It was a win. And I'll take it.
                    If this is a sign to come of this series, I cannot wait until the next game and hope it goes to 7 games. I thought it was a great game to watch. The officiating was inconsistent as hell.

                    I know I will be accused of being a Kobe hater (thinking of you DDD) but I thought the technical on Melo was ridiculous. Better yet, he deserved the technical just as much Kobe did 3 minutes later when he felt that the KMart block was goaltending. He jumped up and down, slapped his hands and yelled at the ref. The same thing that Melo did. I know that he is the Prince of the League (we all know who is the King) but you have to call him on it too.
                    I'm your huckleberry.


                    "I love pulling the bone. Really though, what guy doesn't?" - CJF

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                    • Surfah
                      Where's Wallace?
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 33726

                      #970
                      Plaschke says you can have your LeBron, I'll take Kobe

                      http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,664657.column

                      What the hell is LO wearing?

                      http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...1298152.column
                      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                      -Turtle
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                      • TripletDaddy
                        sweet triple
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 58186

                        #971
                        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        Plaschke says you can have your LeBron, I'll take Kobe

                        http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,664657.column

                        What the hell is LO wearing?

                        http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...1298152.column
                        Hey, i haven't had a chance to post today's articles!
                        Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                        • TripletDaddy
                          sweet triple
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 58186

                          #972
                          Ariza steals the show

                          http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...0,961287.story

                          Kobe wants to serve a mission

                          http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,664657.column

                          George Karl says nothing for 5 seconds

                          http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...1298152.column

                          Kurt Rambis hates winning basketball games

                          http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...0,728895.story

                          The Nuggets are sad

                          http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,4831155.story

                          Nuggets ownership apparently didn't believe the team would go far in the playoffs

                          http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw...,4096620.story

                          Lakers own the Final Four

                          http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...6546604.column

                          Lakers blog...game analysis



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                          • JohnnyLingo
                            La Naranja
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 3976

                            #973
                            Plaschke says you can have your LeBron, I'll take Kobe
                            lol

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #974
                              Jack Nicholson and daughter.....hmmm....



                              Carmelo does pre-game Haka



                              Carmelo and Bynum....both very....excited...to be playing

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                              • TripletDaddy
                                sweet triple
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 58186

                                #975
                                Derek Fisher has renewed confidence; Laker fans sigh

                                http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw...,1076167.story

                                Although, in fairness, he hit that 3 twice last night when the team really needed the momentum. Both of them were Kobe kick-and-dish to the corner. they love that one.
                                Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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