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What is the new kickoff rule?Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostNo hip drop tackle? So I guess smaller guys just shouldn't try to tackle bigger guys any more?
Also the new kickoff rule is wild. NFL is silly."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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I just read about it and it's quite a change. All but the kicker on the kicking team lines up at the receiving team's 40. At least nine players on the receiving team lines up at their 30. Only the kicker and returners can move until the ball hits the ground or is touched by the receiving team. Kick out of bounds goes to the 40. Inside kicks go back to the alignment as normal, but have to be declared ahead of time.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
What is the new kickoff rule?
That's gonna take some getting used to.
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Holy cow. That's a big change!Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
I just read about it and it's quite a change. All but the kicker on the kicking team lines up at the receiving team's 40. At least nine players on the receiving team lines up at their 30. Only the kicker and returners can move until the ball hits the ground or is touched by the receiving team. Kick out of bounds goes to the 40. Inside kicks go back to the alignment as normal, but have to be declared ahead of time.
That's gonna take some getting used to."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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The no hip-drop tackle is wild to me. I understand that its just the hip-drop + swivel, but that's going to lead to some controversial calls.Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostNo hip drop tackle? So I guess smaller guys just shouldn't try to tackle bigger guys any more?
Also the new kickoff rule is wild. NFL is silly.
These are versions of the swivel variety that will be banned:
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I understand that the XFL uses this rule.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
Holy cow. That's a big change!
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They have to declare it's on onside kick at the outset and it goes back to the normal alignment. No more surprise onside kicks.Originally posted by beefytee View PostHow are onside kicks going to work?"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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Which means, no more successful onside kicks.Originally posted by Pelado View Post
They have to declare it's on onside kick at the outset and it goes back to the normal alignment. No more surprise onside kicks.
I liked an idea I saw some time ago, that instead of doing anything like a kickoff, after a touchdown or field goal, they should give the scoring team the ball at the 35 or so, and treat the down as though it were fourth and 20. Pick up twenty yards, you keep the ball. Otherwise, just punt. That system would solve a lot of problems, I think.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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Wait, so kind of like I get to keep the ball until you stop me from scoring? Like pickup basketball rules?Originally posted by All-American View Post
Which means, no more successful onside kicks.
I liked an idea I saw some time ago, that instead of doing anything like a kickoff, after a touchdown or field goal, they should give the scoring team the ball at the 35 or so, and treat the down as though it were fourth and 20. Pick up twenty yards, you keep the ball. Otherwise, just punt. That system would solve a lot of problems, I think.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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You keep it if you gain 20 yards on one play. Otherwise you turn it over around your own 40. So about the same result as a failed onside kick. The probability of making 20 yards in one play is probably greater than recovering an onside kick. I don't hate it. It's weird but a hell of a lot better than that XFL abomination they are adopting.Originally posted by falafel View Post
Wait, so kind of like I get to keep the ball until you stop me from scoring? Like pickup basketball rules?
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And if the probability is too high, make it 4th and 25. Or move the spot on the field. Whatever. Point is, you're probably going to punt unless you are desperate, but there is still a way to keep possession.Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
You keep it if you gain 20 yards on one play. Otherwise you turn it over around your own 40. So about the same result as a failed onside kick. The probability of making 20 yards in one play is probably greater than recovering an onside kick. I don't hate it. It's weird but a hell of a lot better than that XFL abomination they are adopting.
And as a bonus, the way you keep possession is by making a play that resembles real football instead of this weird onside kick maneuver.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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So is this 20 yard 4th down thing available after every score? Or just in the 4th quarter? Or just in the 4th quarter of games within 20 points? Or closer?
I'm just struggling because this seems like a change to the structure of the game in a way I'm not sure I've seen before.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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