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I wonder if he'll give them the hometown discount or if he'll get a big money deal elsewhere."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. -
Congrats to Bryce!So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.Comment
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This is awesome! When was the last time a BYU student got the MLB Rookie of the Year award???
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A well deserved award for Bryce."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.Comment
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Agreed. His overall game was what clinched for him. If he stays healthy, he'll go down as one of the best ever.Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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He's a blast to watch. It's awesome that he and Trout have emerged at the same time. They'll battle for best in the league for years.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post"Nobody listens to Turtle."-TurtlesigpicComment
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If I lived in that area, I would buy season tickets just to watch him play. He does it the right way. He plays because he loves baseball. For him, baseball is not a job. Hopefully he'll have that attitude for his entire career.Originally posted by Surfah View Post
Agreed about Trout. He was fun to watch for the brief time he was here in Salt Lake playing for the Bees."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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You know in 2009 when the Nats took Strasburg #1 overall they also had the #10 pick which they took Drew Storen with. Trout was still on the board. The Nats could have had Harper and Trout in the OF. That would be sick.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post"Nobody listens to Turtle."-TurtlesigpicComment
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Originally posted by Surfah View Post
Although Storen was awesome last year...except for the last game.Comment
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There seems to be some momentum behind them going after Bourne if they can't get a deal with LaRoche. Sounds like a lot of AL teams are interested in LaRoche, so we may still see a killer outfield of Werth, Harper, and Bourne.Originally posted by Surfah View Post"They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.Comment
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Bourn would be a nice addition. Especially because the Nats would be taking him from the Braves. He'd be better in the leadoff position than Werth. Maybe Werth goes to 5th in the lineup after Bryce, Zimm and Morse? He's got wheels and is aggressive on the bases which is what the Nats like to do.Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
Who takes over first though? Morse? Moore? La Roche would be missed. I think they need his veteran experience."Nobody listens to Turtle."-TurtlesigpicComment
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Group 19: The Debate
Bryce Harper vs. Mike Trout
The newly minted Rookies of the Year have drawn comparisons to Bird and Magic, their own legendary rookie seasons, and the hoop duo's subsequent transformation of the NBA into the relentless cash cow it is today. There's not a baseball fan alive who doesn't believe both players will be megastars of the highest order, the kind of rare talents you'll go out of your way to watch, the kind of players who can rewrite a franchise's history. Pat Listach and Bob Hamelin they are not.
Still, there would seem to be a clear pecking order here. Trout just put up the best season by any under-21 position player in baseball history; Harper was about as good as Miguel Montero. They were both rookies, Trout was much better in his rookie season, ergo Trout wins.
Or does he? Harper is 14 months younger than Trout. If we're talking about late-30s middle relievers near the end of the line, that age gap means nothing. Considering Harper just completed his age-19 season, it could mean a hell of a lot. Consider these stat lines:
Ken Griffey Jr.
Age-19 Season: 127 games, .264/.329/.420, 2.8 WAR
Age-20 Season: 155 games, .300/.366/.481, 5.3 WAR
Mel Ott
Age-19 Season: 124 games, .322/.397/.524, 4.6 WAR
Age-20 Season: 150 games, .328/.449/.635, 8.9 WAR
Alex Rodriguez
Age-19 Season: 48 games, .232/.264/.408, -0.2 WAR
Age-20 Season: 146 games, .358/.414/.631, 9.8 WAR
There are other examples, though not as many as you'd like to form a big sample, since we're talking about Hall of Fame–level players who broke in as teenagers, a double rarity. Still, we might be a year away from Harper putting up the kind of season Trout just did in his age-20 campaign. There are other factors working in Harper's favor, too, from a 1.043 OPS in September and October that might point to serious progress in his approach (though it might've simply been random variance) to Trout's likely unsustainable .383 batting average on balls in play last season to word out of Anaheim that Trout might get shifted to left field even though he's a Gold Glove–echelon center fielder — a move that might very well hurt his overall value. Harper's final trump card is this: The Nationals get to keep him for six more years, while the Angels get Trout for only five.
After all that, there's still no getting around the notion that the best player in baseball just celebrated his 21st birthday. If we're lucky, the next 15 years will play out just like Bird vs. Magic, where both players claim the title of best of the best before one finally wins it for good years later. Until then, Bryce Harper is no. 2, and Mike Trout is no. 1.So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.Comment
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"You're going to get a fiery guy no matter if I'm sick, hurt or on my deathbed," he adds. "The fans expect that. They buy tickets because they want to see you play hard every night. That is what they are going to get out of me. This organization deserves that. The city deserves that.
"I am going to do that for the rest of my life. It doesn't matter if I'm 40 years old or not. It's not about the money. I love this game, and I never will disrespect it. It's about doing what players did back in the day."
So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.Comment
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