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  • Donuthole
    Official Outgayer
    • Nov 2008
    • 25216

    #12181
    Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
    Holy smokes. Wouldn't have guessed that.
    Anytime Al is in the court, I expect the Jazz to be below-average defensively. Favors can only do so much. It is surprising that it's THAT bad, though.

    I wonder how many of those minutes over those two games were played with Mo and Foye as the guards? That's three poor defenders (Mo, Foye, Al) on the floor at once, along with one average defender (Millsap) playing out of position, defensively speaking.
    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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    • BGRTHNUMEGO
      Junior Member
      • May 2010
      • 3670

      #12182
      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
      Anytime Al is in the court, I expect the Jazz to be below-average defensively. Favors can only do so much. It is surprising that it's THAT bad, though.

      I wonder how many of those minutes over those two games were played with Mo and Foye as the guards? That's three poor defenders (Mo, Foye, Al) on the floor at once, along with one average defender (Millsap) playing out of position, defensively speaking.
      I was wondering about Foye playing SG there as well. He has been abused on the block in several games. And the maddening part on that is many of those minutes he's on the court with Hayward, and the guy Hayward is guarding is less of an offensive threat, yet Corbin chose to keep Foye on the better offensive player. On 82games it looks like the big 3 lineup has been on the court just a bit more with Mo/Hayward than it has with Mo/Foye.

      I've been surprised by how much Millsap has struggled to stay with SFs or stretch 4's on the perimeter. I understand him having a rough time staying in front of them, but his closeouts and following guys off screens has been horrible. Favors made Bargnani look bad for a huge stretch in Toronto, but that is the kind of player that is killing Millsap right now.

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      • The_Douger
        Athletic Supporter
        • Jun 2012
        • 5413

        #12183
        Favors erased Bargnani.

        He didn't do a thing after Favors was on him.
        Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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        • Applejack
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3812

          #12184
          I'm getting excited to attend the game of the century tomorrow night: Jazz v. Wizards! I'm hoping to get a look at newly signed Shaun Livingston. It will be nice to finally see the Vesely/Seraphin combo in person.

          Looks like seats are available on stubhub starting at $3.70. I'm no sucker, though; prices will drop before tip off.

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          • MarkGrace
            Grooveshark dick tease
            • Dec 2008
            • 31546

            #12185
            If you take Foye out of consideration I'm sure those offensive numbers would drop quite a bit. The sample of minutes is tiny and the offensive numbers in those moments is due in large part to at least one -- and maybe two -- scoring outbursts from him.
            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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            • BGRTHNUMEGO
              Junior Member
              • May 2010
              • 3670

              #12186
              Locke tweeted that Favors has made 23 out of his last 28 FTs. Great sign.

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              • UtahJazzFan88
                Jazz | Utes | Raiders
                • Oct 2011
                • 1678

                #12187
                Foye has looked just as terrible as Big Al on defense. The Paul Piece layup was a joke, backed down in the post and then Foye gave up.

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                • UtahJazzFan88
                  Jazz | Utes | Raiders
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1678

                  #12188
                  This teams defense is trash with Favors on the bench, ugh. When will the fucking idiot Ty get a damn clue.

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                  • LiveCoug
                    LA Ute loves me
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 18477

                    #12189
                    So.. they start the 2nd and 4th quarters on massive runs only to get destroyed each time.

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                    • Blueintheface
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 15382

                      #12190
                      Originally posted by UtahJazzFan88 View Post
                      This teams defense is trash with Favors on the bench, ugh. When will the fucking idiot Ty get a damn clue.
                      When Kwame Brown defensively stymies your doin'-work big man there's little reason play Favors.
                      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                      "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                      • UtahJazzFan88
                        Jazz | Utes | Raiders
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1678

                        #12191
                        Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                        When Kwame Brown defensively stymies your doin'-work big man there's little reason play Favors.
                        Kwame Brown is actually a pretty good defender in the league now. Does nothing else though. That's probably the only reason he's still in the league.

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                        • Donuthole
                          Official Outgayer
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 25216

                          #12192
                          Mo sucks. Too many poor decisions for a PG.
                          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                          There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                          • Blueintheface
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 15382

                            #12193
                            Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                            Mo sucks. Too many poor decisions for a PG.
                            It's an interesting contrast to Devin Harris who completely lacked confidence. I'd say the jury is still out on which player is less bad.
                            "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                            "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                            • BGRTHNUMEGO
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 3670

                              #12194
                              Mo covers as much space and uses as many dribbles as he possibly can to get very little done. As opposed to CP3 and Nash who use very little of the court on offensive sets, but set up screens perfectly and dissect defenses.

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                              • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                                Time to camp
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26082

                                #12195
                                Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
                                Mo covers as much space and uses as many dribbles as he possibly can to get very little done. As opposed to CP3 and Nash who use very little of the court on offensive sets, but set up screens perfectly and dissect defenses.
                                We could have had CP3, we picked wrong.
                                Get confident, stupid
                                -landpoke

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