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  • Monday on 1320, K-Fan Kevin O’Connor went out of his way to mention how good Paul Millsap looks after his off-season of work. It seems if anyone was concerned that Paul was going to stop working after his contract that concern was ill advised.

    Millsap’s role this season is still undefined. Will he start with Al Jefferson at the beginning of the year with Memo Okur out? Will he come off the bench again and play with the second unit while finishing games?

    None of those should impact how Millsap plays in the 2010-11 season. The Jazz are hoping the 25 year old former second round draft pick has another step up in his game. Last season, Paul productivity slipped a little as Boozer took a larger role with the team from his injury plagues season in 08-09.

    Yet, when analyzing his per 36 minute numbers though his performance was much more in line with the year prior and the growth we saw from year 2 to year 3.

    The most important area of growth for Millsap is that in the last two years he has become less foul prone. In his first two years in the league he averaged 5.8 fouls per 36 minutes. In the last two years, he has been at 4.5. a number that needs to still decrease but is headed in the correct direction.

    The only area where Millsap’s game slipped last year was his rebounding. His rebounding rate (% of available rebounds you grab when on the floor) slipped to a career low. On the offensive glass Millsap had been garnering 13 to 15% of the rebounds and last year was at just 9.9%. On the defensive end he went from 20 to 21% down to 18.9%. His overall rebounding rate of just 14.5% down from 17% in the years past moved him out of the elite of the league.

    It will curious to see how that changes playing with Al Jefferson rather than Carlos Boozer. Boozer is a considerably better defensive rebounder than Jefferson so Millsap will need to be more active on the defensive glass.

    One of the reason Millsap rebounding numbers may have been down is his game moved a bit more to the perimeter last year with a new confidence in his midrange foot jumper. Last year Millsap took 145 shots from 15 to 23 feet (according to nba hot spots) hitting an impressive 47%. This is a good number for a big man. The year prior he shot 40 for 104 for 38%.

    That type of improvement t is rare in the NBA and a sign of hard work. More impressively in the playoffs last year Millsap buried 12 of 21 shots from 15 to 23 feet.

    If Paul continues that level of improvement with a low post based front court mate in Al Jefferson rather than the high post game of Carlos Boozer, Paul could have a terrific year.

    Last season, Boozer took 210 shots from 15 to 23 feet in contrast to Al Jefferson taking just 106. In contrast, Jefferson took nearly a 1,000 shots (992) from 15 feet and in whereas Boozer took just 888. Playing with Jefferson is going to clog the paint but open up the 15 foot to 23 foot range for Millsap.

    Offensively, the Jazz will need Millsap to help pick up a portion of the 14 pts a game that Okur was producing while still doing his part which was 12 points a game. No, that doesn’t mean that Millsap has to average 26 points a game, don’t be silly, but Paul needs to move toward 15 to 18 points a night with consistent night in and night performances. Nothing in his resume says that should be too much for him to handle.

    As a starter in 08-09, Millsap averaged 16 points and 10 rebounds a game.

    Defensively the Jazz have been dramatically better the last few seasons when Millsap has been on the floor. This season with Millsap minute’s likely back over 30 a night the Jazz will need him to maintain that defensive influence. Millsap is one of the better on ball post defenders in the league despite being just 6’8.

    With Jefferson’s increased length and the defensive presence of Raja Bell on the perimeter the Jazz are hoping to be an improved defensive team and Millsap will need to be at the core of that improvement.
    http://www.nba.com/jazz/features/locked_on_jazz.html

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    • The question that's been in the back of my mind is that MN thought that it was a problem that they had 2 starting PFs and no center in Jefferson and Love, yet nobody is thinking this might be a problem for the Jazz.

      Is this because we are working under the assumption that Okur will be back sooner rather than later (I don't believe that) resulting in Jefferson being the C on offense and Okur being the C on defense? I certainly agree that that is an improvement over the Boozer Okur combo.

      But what about the Millsap/Jefferson combo that we are counting on for at least the 1st half of the season? Locke did a good breakdown there, but I'm curious to hear any contrary opinion. Everybody seems so happy with the replacement for Boozer than I haven't heard any negative opinion on how having the 2 PF will play out.

      I almost think that Jefferson/Sap with AK is a better lineup than Jefferson/Okur. But why was MN so anxious to get rid of Jefferson who was playing along another decent young PF in Love?

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      • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
        The question that's been in the back of my mind is that MN thought that it was a problem that they had 2 starting PFs and no center in Jefferson and Love, yet nobody is thinking this might be a problem for the Jazz.

        Is this because we are working under the assumption that Okur will be back sooner rather than later (I don't believe that) resulting in Jefferson being the C on offense and Okur being the C on defense? I certainly agree that that is an improvement over the Boozer Okur combo.

        But what about the Millsap/Jefferson combo that we are counting on for at least the 1st half of the season? Locke did a good breakdown there, but I'm curious to hear any contrary opinion. Everybody seems so happy with the replacement for Boozer than I haven't heard any negative opinion on how having the 2 PF will play out.

        I almost think that Jefferson/Sap with AK is a better lineup than Jefferson/Okur. But why was MN so anxious to get rid of Jefferson who was playing along another decent young PF in Love?
        I'll be interested to hear other thoughts on this, but here are the first few things that popped into my head:

        - One reason MN was willing to move Jefferson was because of a shift in offensive philosophy. They want to get out an run more, thinking it will utilize Flynn's talents better and will seem more appealing to Rubio. And when they're in a halfcourt set, they want better passing and/or a more varied offensive game out of their bigs.

        - MN knew they weren't going anywhere in the west, so why pay one player $13 M this season when the entire payroll is around $40 M after all the draft picks and free agent additions they did this off-season? He wasn't just being moved because of basketball reasons.

        - It is less of an issue in Utah because the rest of the team is better. Jefferson/Sap still isn't an ideal pairing in the front court and it never will be. But it works out better than Jefferson/Love because of the offense Utah utilizes, because Deron Williams is the PG, and because as long as the wins total up it will be viewed as working out better.

        - IMO, Jefferson is an improvement over Boozer for this team. So while Jefferson/Sap might not be an ideal pairing, it should be better than Boozer/Sap...for various reasons. So again, not perfect, but I do feel it will work out better.

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        • Jazz sign guard Ryan Thompson. I'm assuming it is a non-guaranteed deal.

          We'll see how the roster is finished up. Watson and Evans? Evans and Fess? If Watson signs a guaranteed deal does Thompson get cut?

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          • Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
            Jazz sign guard Ryan Thompson. I'm assuming it is a non-guaranteed deal.

            We'll see how the roster is finished up. Watson and Evans? Evans and Fess? If Watson signs a guaranteed deal does Thompson get cut?
            Watson already signed a guaranteed deal.
            http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogs/j...oints.html.csp

            Sounds like everybody likes Evans. Don't know if he can play though.

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            • Kirilenko possibly involved in 4 team trade.

              [ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5610989"]Sources: Carmelo Anthony of Denver Nuggets part of four-team trade talks - ESPN[/ame]

              Possibly getting Boris Diaw.

              Not sure if I like this....
              Last edited by Coastal Ute; 09-24-2010, 06:46 PM.
              "75-10 the last two games? Is my math right? It's enough to make me reconsider my embrace of science over Christianity."--SU

              "Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to have fumbled this football."
              -John Heisman

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              • Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
                Jazz sign guard Ryan Thompson. I'm assuming it is a non-guaranteed deal.

                We'll see how the roster is finished up. Watson and Evans? Evans and Fess? If Watson signs a guaranteed deal does Thompson get cut?
                I also assume it isn't the Ryan Thompson that is our CFO, or the talent evaluation for the Jazz is worse than I thought.
                Get confident, stupid
                -landpoke

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                • Rumors of an AK deal got one comment around here? Guess nobody is in the mood for basketball season yet.
                  So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                  • Nvmd. Looks like it was getting discussed in the Melo thread.
                    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                    • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                      Nvmd. Looks like it was getting discussed in the Melo thread.
                      It deserves to be in the official Jazz thread too.
                      "75-10 the last two games? Is my math right? It's enough to make me reconsider my embrace of science over Christianity."--SU

                      "Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to have fumbled this football."
                      -John Heisman

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                      • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                        Rumors of an AK deal got one comment around here? Guess nobody is in the mood for basketball season yet.
                        I hadn't really seen anything about the trade until last night. Trading AK for Diaw is a pretty awful trade IMO.
                        Get confident, stupid
                        -landpoke

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                        • Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                          I hadn't really seen anything about the trade until last night. Trading AK for Diaw is a pretty awful trade IMO.
                          Beyond awful.

                          "Here division rival. Let us help you get a much return as possible for your bitchy, whiny superstar who wants to leave. It will make us much worse, but if it helps you complete the trade and if it helps us save 8 million dollars, why not?"

                          I don't even have the patience to address what a truly terrible move this would be. Even Mrs. Donut, who knows absolutely nothing about NBA trades, saw the SportSCenter screen last night showing who gets what and said "I don't know who Boris Diaw is, but if you're giving up a better player than what you're getting back, shouldn't you get some picks in return?"
                          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                          There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                          • I think all told this means $24mm to the Jazz. That's a lot of dinero.

                            Anyway, me general reaction is "meh." I'm years removed from being attached to that guy.
                            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                            • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                              I think all told this means $24mm to the Jazz. That's a lot of dinero.

                              Anyway, me general reaction is "meh." I'm years removed from being attached to that guy.
                              That really is a huge number. AK makes the Jazz better, but not at the tune of $24 million dollars better. And if/when AK gets hurt, at least we would have Diaw that could fill in. Wed be a little weak on the wings, and it really makes me wish we would have gone after Brewer or kept KK had we known we were going to dump AK. But I guess when it comes down to it, that really is a whole lot of green.

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                              • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                                I think all told this means $24mm to the Jazz. That's a lot of dinero.

                                Anyway, me general reaction is "meh." I'm years removed from being attached to that guy.
                                We should at least get one pick out of it, my goodness.

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