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  • jay santos
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 13652

    #301
    Originally posted by statman View Post
    The 3rd non-goal is the reason why soccer will never be popular with the majority of Americans. A refereee can eliminate a goal, that completely changes a game, without making any specific call.

    Pure bullshit.

    The ref took a win and 2 points from the US and gave a point to the Slovenians, withotut any explanation.

    Pure bullshit...
    What exactly happened on the play?

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    • Hot Lunch
      Out of Office
      • Nov 2008
      • 7842

      #302
      Originally posted by jay santos View Post
      What exactly happened on the play?
      It was a free kick, Donavon placed it perfectly in the box and Edu put it in. The official called offsides to negate the goal. I don't think there was an offsides at all and that was very questionable. There were also two U.S. players being held on the kick. One was drug down by a defender.
      "Take it to the Bank"

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      • DrumNFeather
        Invisible Swordsman
        • Nov 2008
        • 8854

        #303
        Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
        It was a free kick, Donavon placed it perfectly in the box and Edu put it in. The official called offsides to negate the goal. I don't think there was an offsides at all and that was very questionable. There were also two U.S. players being held on the kick. One was drug down by a defender.
        It sounded on the broadcast like he actually called a foul. That they initially thought offsides, but that he called a foul on the U.S. don't know if that is actually the case, but it seems like it was what was called.
        "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

        Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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        • Hot Lunch
          Out of Office
          • Nov 2008
          • 7842

          #304
          Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
          It sounded on the broadcast like he actually called a foul. That they initially thought offsides, but that he called a foul on the U.S. don't know if that is actually the case, but it seems like it was what was called.
          So the call was a foul on the U.S? If that is the case then I will be even more upset than I already am and just might start a riot or a revolution. Whichever makes more noise.
          "Take it to the Bank"

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          • falafel
            loves to talk on things
            • Mar 2009
            • 37951

            #305
            Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
            It sounded on the broadcast like he actually called a foul. That they initially thought offsides, but that he called a foul on the U.S. don't know if that is actually the case, but it seems like it was what was called.
            Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
            So the call was a foul on the U.S? If that is the case then I will be even more upset than I already am and just might start a riot or a revolution. Whichever makes more noise.
            IIRC there was no explanation for the call whatsoever. There was no flag indicating offside, so unless the ref made that call without the help of his side officials, then he must have called a foul on the U.S., which of course is ridiculous. At least 2 U.S. players were fouled themselves, but regardless they should have been given the advantage and the goal should stand.

            After that play I am suddenly a proponent of instant replay in soccer. I hope that ref is removed from further officiating duties at the world cup. Horrible call.
            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

            Dig your own grave, and save!

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            • The_Tick
              Made something of myself
              • Nov 2008
              • 7286

              #306
              Originally posted by 8BR View Post
              I've never seen such a poorly officiated match.
              Apparently you didn't watch the Laker's game last night.

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              • Hot Lunch
                Out of Office
                • Nov 2008
                • 7842

                #307
                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                IIRC there was no explanation for the call whatsoever. There was no flag indicating offside, so unless the ref made that call without the help of his side officials, then he must have called a foul on the U.S., which of course is ridiculous. At least 2 U.S. players were fouled themselves, but regardless they should have been given the advantage and the goal should stand.

                After that play I am suddenly a proponent of instant replay in soccer. I hope that ref is removed from further officiating duties at the world cup. Horrible call.
                I just read that they called a foul on Edu which is complete Booshit. Very disappointing. I am going to start a riot in Provo in a few minutes. Anyone want to join me?
                "Take it to the Bank"

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                • Surfah
                  Where's Wallace?
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 33726

                  #308
                  Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                  So the call was a foul on the U.S? If that is the case then I will be even more upset than I already am and just might start a riot or a revolution. Whichever makes more noise.
                  I am pretty sure it was a foul on Bradley. I mean phantom foul.
                  "Nobody listens to Turtle."
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                  • falafel
                    loves to talk on things
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 37951

                    #309
                    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                    I am pretty sure it was a foul on Bradley. I mean phantom foul.
                    Damn Bradley. He kept forcing his body between that defender's circled arms. Leave that defender alone already!

                    Btw, that was a freakin' awesome goal by Bradley.
                    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                    Dig your own grave, and save!

                    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Art Vandelay
                      Striving for mediocrity
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 10516

                      #310
                      Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                      I am pretty sure it was a foul on Bradley. I mean phantom foul.
                      He was obviously holding the Slovenian defenders arms with his chest. It's an easy call...

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                      • jay santos
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 13652

                        #311
                        Originally posted by falafel View Post
                        IIRC there was no explanation for the call whatsoever. There was no flag indicating offside, so unless the ref made that call without the help of his side officials, then he must have called a foul on the U.S., which of course is ridiculous. At least 2 U.S. players were fouled themselves, but regardless they should have been given the advantage and the goal should stand.

                        After that play I am suddenly a proponent of instant replay in soccer. I hope that ref is removed from further officiating duties at the world cup. Horrible call.
                        It's impossible for one ref trying on a corner kick trying to watch 16 guys push, grab, punch each other for position and try to make sense of it. Instant replay, additional ref's on the field. I'm not sure of the perfect solution, but it needs something.

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                        • falafel
                          loves to talk on things
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 37951

                          #312
                          Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                          It's impossible for one ref trying on a corner kick trying to watch 16 guys push, grab, punch each other for position and try to make sense of it. Instant replay, additional ref's on the field. I'm not sure of the perfect solution, but it needs something.
                          Definitely needs something. For that call though you would have need 2 or 3 extra refs.
                          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                          Dig your own grave, and save!

                          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • statman
                            Rabblerouser
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2799

                            #313
                            Originally posted by falafel View Post
                            IIRC there was no explanation for the call whatsoever. There was no flag indicating offside, so unless the ref made that call without the help of his side officials, then he must have called a foul on the U.S., which of course is ridiculous. At least 2 U.S. players were fouled themselves, but regardless they should have been given the advantage and the goal should stand.

                            After that play I am suddenly a proponent of instant replay in soccer. I hope that ref is removed from further officiating duties at the world cup. Horrible call.
                            German TV commentors said there never was any explanation of the call. The ref immediately waved off the goal without a reason why.

                            There was no US offsides.

                            There was no obvious US foul (although there were two clear Slovenian fouls).

                            There was no clear call.

                            It brings a Russian-figure-skating-judge feel to the World Cup...

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                            • falafel
                              loves to talk on things
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 37951

                              #314
                              Originally posted by statman View Post
                              German TV commentors said there never was any explanation of the call. The ref immediately waved off the goal without a reason why.

                              There was no US offsides.

                              There was no obvious US foul (although there were two clear Slovenian fouls).

                              There was no clear call.

                              It brings a Russian-figure-skating-judge feel to the World Cup...
                              Totally agree. If we were England we'd be rioting in the streets. This is horrible.
                              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                              Dig your own grave, and save!

                              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • statman
                                Rabblerouser
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 2799

                                #315
                                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                                It's impossible for one ref trying on a corner kick trying to watch 16 guys push, grab, punch each other for position and try to make sense of it. Instant replay, additional ref's on the field. I'm not sure of the perfect solution, but it needs something.
                                How about a 'no call'? That would've been perfect. Especially since there's really no evidence that the team he penalized did anything wrong.

                                German sports media are really pissed off about the refs right now. They're saying that Klose's elimination ensured the German loss, and although they say both yellows were individually borderline as yellows (they don't really argue that either of the calls were wrong individually), they're arguing that his overall play didn't deserve a double-yellow elimination. But they think Schwansteiger should have been kicked-out and wasn't. And they think the US really got screwed.

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