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  • jay santos
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 13652

    #451
    Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    As many of you know, I have a personal interest in seeing how Beo performs. I'm still worried he may be too much of a tweaner to ever get a lot of minutes. I'm glad to hear he is shooting the ball well. When the kid is on he can fill it up. He has an effortless stroke.
    If he can shoot and is athletic enough to defend on the perimeter, he should get some minutes.

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    • BlueK
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 7172

      #452
      Originally posted by Topper View Post
      It seems basketball players are often beset by a string of nagging injuries. Because I don't follow any other team closely, it always seems BYU has more than its fair share, but that is probably just a lack of focus on other programs than a reality. If EB and Rose ever get healthy and then fit, it would be nice.
      Bryant doesn't have an injury history, unlike Rose.

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      • Art Vandelay
        Striving for mediocrity
        • Jul 2009
        • 10516

        #453
        Originally posted by jay santos View Post
        If he can shoot and is athletic enough to defend on the perimeter, he should get some minutes.
        a big YES on the first. Its the second criteria he is going to struggle with. He had a hard time staying in front of HS guards.

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        • Topper
          Pre-Historic Man
          • Nov 2011
          • 11764

          #454
          Originally posted by BlueK View Post
          Bryant doesn't have an injury history, unlike Rose.
          Rose starting off the season injured doesn't surprise me.
          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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          • Commando
            Explosivo
            • Feb 2009
            • 20748

            #455
            Originally posted by Topper View Post
            It seems basketball players are often beset by a string of nagging injuries. Because I don't follow any other team closely, it always seems BYU has more than its fair share, but that is probably just a lack of focus on other programs than a reality. If EB and Rose ever get healthy and then fit, it would be nice.
            EB? He just had a miniscus repair.
            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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            • smokymountainrain
              Impressive Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 22593

              #456
              Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
              As many of you know, I have a personal interest in seeing how Beo performs. I'm still worried he may be too much of a tweaner to ever get a lot of minutes. I'm glad to hear he is shooting the ball well. When the kid is on he can fill it up. He has an effortless stroke.
              I thought he played Haws to a standstill. even frustrated Haws and caused him to lose his temper there at one point. Beo was very impressive. not only a good shooter, but showed toughness and was clearly confident and ultra competitive. despite the Blue Team being at a disadvantage, his demeanor was such that he expected to win and expected to outplay Haws throughout the game. Very impressed with him.
              I'm like LeBron James.
              -mpfunk

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              • Topper
                Pre-Historic Man
                • Nov 2011
                • 11764

                #457
                Originally posted by Commando View Post
                EB? He just had a miniscus repair.
                When will he start practicing again. Meniscus repair should be a quick heal for somebody such as Elijah.
                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                • bluegoose
                  7th round draft pick
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 4112

                  #458
                  Originally posted by Topper View Post
                  When will he start practicing again. Meniscus repair should be a quick heal for somebody such as Elijah.
                  I doubt it was a meniscus repair. Most likely just a clean up if he is planning to play this season. Meniscus repairs typically take as long or longer than ACL reconstructions to fully rehab.

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                  • Topper
                    Pre-Historic Man
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11764

                    #459
                    Originally posted by bluegoose View Post
                    I doubt it was a meniscus repair. Most likely just a clean up if he is planning to play this season. Meniscus repairs typically take as long or longer than ACL reconstructions to fully rehab.
                    I stand corrected. I had a dual meniscus repair and it required nine months, but the clean up shouldn't require a long time. Thanks for the pick up.
                    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                    • KillerDog
                      a.k.a. K-dog
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 4196

                      #460
                      Couple of things:

                      Mika sprained his ankle coming down on Fram in practice. Super minor. Could have played on it. He does it often enough that there is no worry.

                      Bryant had his knee scoped. He should be ready for Princeton. Super strong and physical. Shot maker in practice prior to injury. Arguably the best player on the team. (Mika gets the other argument.)

                      LJ is rehabbing an ankle. Has scrimmaged in practice. Looks like a solid athlete, good distributor and good shooter. I haven't seen enough to say where he will be in the rotation but he's in the top group.

                      Colby shoots like that all the time in practice. He will see court time in a material way and could be the 5th guard we really need.

                      Beo played the best I've seen him and I don't know if it's a prediction of things to come or an aberration.

                      As hobbled as Aytes looked last night, he was moving well compared to when his back or hamstring are really acting up. His recent play has made him one of the top 4 bigs.

                      Dastrup had a rough night. His play depends on how hard he's had to run in recent practices. He doesn't have the lungs or the legs to move his 270 lbs around right now and he was tired last night. I still think he is the 5th big and climbing. I've seen him give all of the other bigs fits and he doesn't know some of the offensive or defensive sets. I love his game.

                      You all probably know that I love TJ. He didn't play very well last night, for him. When he's on, he can poor it in from anywhere off the catch or off the bounce and he throws the best passes for dunks ... Well except for LJ. He can guard when he wants to.

                      Guinn is very athletic, plays with a lot of effort, has good size, and always looks a bit out of control. He is competing with Colby for 5th guard right now but they are almost opposite looks so it might be matchup driven.

                      Childs is exactly what he looks like. His entire post game is jump hooks and dunks. He can dunk off almost any type of catch or contact. He rebounds outside his area and gives us a very different look from Davis and Aytes. He doesn't shoot it as well as Payton but he shoots the 3 more consistently then the other bugs not named Payton.

                      Only guy I love as much as Teej is Mika. He has become a vocal leader. He pushes everyone and makes them better but he does it in a way that makes the guys love him. He still has amazing post skills and can run the floor as well as Yeoli. He and Yeoli on the floor will create athletic mismatches against anyone in our league including Gonzaga.

                      Nick is very talented. The coaches are pushing him hard to gain control of his desire to shoot bad shots. He guards on the ball a lot better this year and I expect he will be able to stay in front of quick guards.

                      Defense: Quincy is really doing a good job on the three primary defenses. We will play lots of man and 2-3 but we also have a 1-3-1 again. He is working hard to get the guys to make the right switches and recover well. He creates a lot of lopsided defense drills that are getting good results. The emphasis on d will make us better this year. That said, we still run like crazy and will do so against anyone.

                      I can't think of more stuff but if you ask, I might have an answer.

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                      • jay santos
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 13652

                        #461
                        Wow. Bryant could be best on the team?? This is blowing my mind. I'll say this. I'd Bryant is best player on the team, I think we're no worse than a 6 seed.

                        Oh and I hate that effing 1-3-1.

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                        • KillerDog
                          a.k.a. K-dog
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4196

                          #462
                          Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                          Wow. Bryant could be best on the team?? This is blowing my mind. I'll say this. I'd Bryant is best player on the team, I think we're no worse than a 6 seed.

                          Oh and I hate that effing 1-3-1.
                          Like Rose says, practice isn't a game and lots of guys are better in practice than in a game. That said, he loves contact, has good athleticism and size, handles well and is a shot maker.

                          I love the 1-3-1 especially when we disguise it and people think we are in a 2-3. The seams are all different.

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69583

                            #463
                            Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                            Wow. Bryant could be best on the team?? This is blowing my mind. I'll say this. I'd Bryant is best player on the team, I think we're no worse than a 6 seed.

                            Oh and I hate that effing 1-3-1.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Goatnapper'96
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 10920

                              #464
                              Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
                              Like Rose says, practice isn't a game and lots of guys are better in practice than in a game. That said, he loves contact, has good athleticism and size, handles well and is a shot maker.

                              I love the 1-3-1 especially when we disguise it and people think we are in a 2-3. The seams are all different.
                              If Bryant can man the top 1 and disrupt similar to how Kyle did last year this is a pretty good lineup for a 1-3-1. Especially if they put TJ down as the bottom 1. It could be like that U of A 1-3-1 that was devestating with Kenny Loftin roaming centerfield as the bottom 1 from the late 80's with Sean Elliot and Steve Kerr.
                              Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                              -General George S. Patton

                              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                              -DOCTOR Wuap

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                              • Goatnapper'96
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10920

                                #465
                                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                                Wow. Bryant could be best on the team?? This is blowing my mind. I'll say this. I'd Bryant is best player on the team, I think we're no worse than a 6 seed.

                                Oh and I hate that effing 1-3-1.
                                It might have been said before: this is the brightest future for BYU hoops in.like.ever!
                                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                                -General George S. Patton

                                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                                -DOCTOR Wuap

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