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  • #1171
    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
    So with BYU and Purdue both squarely on the bubble, who should BYU fans be pulling for in today's Ohio State-Purdue game?
    Purdue of course!
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    • #1172
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      Purdue of course!
      Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
      Purdue needs to lose at this point. Obviously if we had beaten them we would be pulling for the win and would probably not be on the bubble.
      This is a pretty comprehensive summary of my own thought process, which ultimately caused me to post the question.
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      • #1173
        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
        This is a pretty comprehensive summary of my own thought process, which ultimately caused me to post the question.
        It is illogical to want Purdue to lose unless there were room for only one team to get in off the bubble, which isn't true. Since the "bubble" isn't even really a bubble until the season ends and conference tournaments are over, the only rational option is to continue to want BYUs opponents to do well over the next week or so, thereby improving BYUs streng of schedule, RPI, etc. More than one fringe team will get in.

        in sum:

        a Purdue loss is a de facto negative to BYUs resume.
        a Purdue win is a highly likely boost to BYUs resume.
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        • #1174
          Stanford losing was a downer. Would have been nice to have another top 50 win.
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          • #1175
            Originally posted by Pelado View Post
            Updated to remove "lose to Gonzaga in regular season" possibilities. Expected RPI and Probability percentages not current, but could be instructive:

            Final record Expected RPI Probability Possibilities
            24-8 21.2 2.09% Win out
            23-9 26.4 17.60% Beat Gonzaga in regular season, lose in tourney final; Expected RPI and Probability percentage includes prior "Lose to Gonzaga, win tournament" possibility
            22-9 42.4 3.82% Beat Gonzaga in regular season, lose in tourney 2nd round
            21-9 55.1 2.66% Beat Gonzaga in regular season, lose in tourney 1st round
            As of today per rpiforecast.com:

            Final record Expected RPI Probability Possibilities
            24-8 21.6 18.83% Win out
            23-9 30.5 42.53% Lose in tourney final
            22-9 43.1 25.78% Lose in tourney semifinal
            21-9 56.0 12.85% Lose in tourney quarterfinal
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            • #1176
              Originally posted by Pelado View Post
              As of today per rpiforecast.com:

              Final record Expected RPI Probability Possibilities
              24-8 21.6 18.83% Win out
              23-9 30.5 42.53% Lose in tourney final
              22-9 43.1 25.78% Lose in tourney semifinal
              21-9 56.0 12.85% Lose in tourney quarterfinal
              Wow- how one game can change the fortunes of a team. We had a slimmer chance of beating Gonzaga last night than we now have of winning out.
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              • #1177
                Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                As of today per rpiforecast.com:

                Final record Expected RPI Probability Possibilities
                24-8 21.6 18.83% Win out
                23-9 30.5 42.53% Lose in tourney final
                22-9 43.1 25.78% Lose in tourney semifinal
                21-9 56.0 12.85% Lose in tourney quarterfinal
                Got to take out those St. Mary's sonsabitches.

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                • #1178
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  It is illogical to want Purdue to lose unless there were room for only one team to get in off the bubble, which isn't true. Since the "bubble" isn't even really a bubble until the season ends and conference tournaments are over, the only rational option is to continue to want BYUs opponents to do well over the next week or so, thereby improving BYUs streng of schedule, RPI, etc. More than one fringe team will get in.

                  in sum:

                  a Purdue loss is a de facto negative to BYUs resume.
                  a Purdue win is a highly likely boost to BYUs resume.
                  Purdue loses and Stanford loses, but BYU moves into Lunardi's last 4 in. Go figure.
                  Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                  There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                  • #1179
                    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                    Purdue loses and Stanford loses, but BYU moves into Lunardi's last 4 in. Go figure.
                    Lunardi moved us in after looking at the effect of injuries or player absences. Not sure what he's looking at. Winder was out at St. Mary's. KC played in the home loss to Pepperdine but was obviously sick and not himself. It's been clearly established that Austin's health would have made this team top 25 but the committee can't use that since he won't be back.

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                    • #1180
                      Originally posted by wapiti View Post
                      Lunardi moved us in after looking at the effect of injuries or player absences. Not sure what he's looking at. Winder was out at St. Mary's. KC played in the home loss to Pepperdine but was obviously sick and not himself. It's been clearly established that Austin's health would have made this team top 25 but the committee can't use that since he won't be back.
                      Haws was also injured for a while.
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                      • #1181
                        Originally posted by wapiti View Post
                        Lunardi moved us in after looking at the effect of injuries or player absences. Not sure what he's looking at. Winder was out at St. Mary's. KC played in the home loss to Pepperdine but was obviously sick and not himself. It's been clearly established that Austin's health would have made this team top 25 but the committee can't use that since he won't be back.
                        He's got us in the play-in against Colorado St. It would be fun to knock around an old MWC in the first round.
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                        • #1182
                          Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                          He's got us in the play-in against Colorado St. It would be fun to knock around an old MWC in the first round.
                          Play in? Are teams from the lowly conferences that get a bid all that good that they wouldn't get the play in. Who is the Big West champ?


                          Edit: Nevermind. I see the 4 play ins aren't the four worst teams.
                          Last edited by byu71; 03-02-2015, 10:27 AM.

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                          • #1183
                            Friday, March 6
                            Men
                            No. 8 San Francisco vs. No. 9 Pacific, 6:00 p.m. ((BYUtv, TheW.tv)
                            No. 7 Santa Clara vs. No. 10 Loyola Marymount, 8:00 p.m. (BYUtv, TheW.tv)

                            Saturday, March 7
                            Men
                            No. 3 Saint Mary's vs. No 6 Portland, 12:00 p.m. (TWC SportsNet, CSN California, ROOT Northwest, BYUtv, TheW.tv)
                            No. 4 Pepperdine vs. No. 5 San Diego, 2:00 p.m. (TWC SportsNet, CSN California, ROOT Northwest, BYUtv, TheW.tv)
                            No. 1 Gonzaga vs. No. 8/9, 6:00 p.m. (ESPN2, WatchESPN)
                            No. 2 BYU vs. No. 7/10, 8:00 p.m. (ESPN2, WatchESPN)

                            Monday, March 9
                            Men
                            TBA - Men's Semifinal No. 1, 6:00 p.m. (ESPN, WatchESPN)
                            TBA - Men's Semifinal No. 2, 8:30 p.m. (ESPN2, WatchESPN)

                            Tuesday, March 10
                            Men's Championship Game, 6:00 p.m. (ESPN, WatchESPN)

                            All times Pacific.

                            On Monday, one men's semifinal will air at 6 p.m. on ESPN, with the other semifinal immediately to follow on ESPN2. The order of Monday's semifinals is to be determined following Saturday's games.
                            http://www.wccsports.com/sports/m-ba...030115aaa.html
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                            • #1184
                              Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                              http://www.wccsports.com/sports/m-ba...030115aaa.html
                              I guess I'm happy to see Pepperdine in the other side of the bracket, but the Gaels aren't exactly a rollover.
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                              • #1185
                                Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                                I guess I'm happy to see Pepperdine in the other side of the bracket, but the Gaels aren't exactly a rollover.
                                I guess I'm reading that wrong. My understanding is we get the winner of 7/10 and then the winner of Pepperdine/SD.
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