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  • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    BYU basketball has represented an interesting experiment: can a university recruit all of its competitive recruits from a single high school remain competitive at the DI level?
    If the high school team happens to be national championship caliber the answer is probably yes. And as CJ points out, those guys aren't even playing yet.

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    • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
      Considering none of those recruits are on the team right now, this experiment will need a few more years to develop.
      What about Nate Austin and Tyler Haws?

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      • Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
        What about Nate Austin and Tyler Haws?
        ...and Josh Sharp.

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        • I do find it interesting that 8 guys on the roster are from Utah County. That said, I think the biggest problem Rose has had over the last couple of years is the lack of defense. It just isn't a priority to his style of play. Not only that but this team over the past couple of years has not been able to win close games. I would be curious to see what Rose's record is with games decided within the last two minutes of a game. This year he haven't won a single close game. To me that is a combination of poor coaching and poor execution.

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          • Originally posted by A-Train View Post
            Not only that but this team over the past couple of years has not been able to win close games. I would be curious to see what Rose's record is with games decided within the last two minutes of a game. This year he haven't won a single close game. To me that is a combination of poor coaching and poor execution.
            BYU was 4-3 in games decided by 5 points or less last year and 3-5 this year.

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            • Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
              What about Nate Austin and Tyler Haws?
              He is talking about the Emery, Haws, Mika triumvirate. He has no idea where Haws, Austin or Sharp attended high school.
              *Banned*

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              • Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                BYU was 4-3 in games decided by 5 points or less last year and 3-5 this year.
                I wonder whether that is the best metric for identifying games that were decided within the last two minutes of play. I'm not sure how "decided" is defined here, but your measure would leave out a game like Gonzaga, which was a one-possession game with two minutes to go (80-77 Gonzaga). I would say that definitely fits any reasonable definition of being decided within the last two minutes. I think a game like Long Beach State is trickier. BYU won by five after CSLB made a lay-up at the buzzer. BYU had a six- to nine-point lead otherwise during the final two minutes of that game. Was that game decided in the final two minutes? There are arguments either way.
                "What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone

                "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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                • Originally posted by Joe Public View Post
                  I wonder whether that is the best metric for identifying games that were decided within the last two minutes of play. I'm not sure how "decided" is defined here, but your measure would leave out a game like Gonzaga, which was a one-possession game with two minutes to go (80-77 Gonzaga). I would say that definitely fits any reasonable definition of being decided within the last two minutes. I think a game like Long Beach State is trickier. BYU won by five after CSLB made a lay-up at the buzzer. BYU had a six- to nine-point lead otherwise during the final two minutes of that game. Was that game decided in the final two minutes? There are arguments either way.
                  Probably not the best metric but I didn't have time to search the play by play.

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                  • BYU is currently 1st in Div. I in scoring at 86.0 ppg and is 332nd in points allowed at 74.1 ppg. I still can't believe they lost at home to a Pepperdine team that scored only 67 points.
                    "What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone

                    "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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                    • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      He is talking about the Emery, Haws, Mika triumvirate. He has no idea where Haws, Austin or Sharp attended high school.
                      I was refering to Haws, Austin and Sharp. I know where they went to school. Actually, I generally presume all of BYU's players to Lone Peak. Collinsworth is not from Lone Peak?

                      For the record, I think it's very regrettable that Emery, Haws, and Mika went on missions. History shows that for basketball players this is devastating to their development trajectory. Their parents care more about the prestige of a son on a mission than their athletic careers. No wonder those kids are going to BYU; they're brainwashed. When I was a kid BYU basketball players never went on missions. Nobody gave it a second thought when Ainge didn't go. In fact, Devin Durrant started this, and when he said he was going that is what raised eyebrows.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        For the record, I think it's very regrettable that Emery, Haws, and Mika went on missions.
                        I agree.
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                        • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post

                          For the record, I think it's very regrettable that Emery, Haws, and Mika went on missions. History shows that for basketball players this is devastating to their development trajectory. Their parents care more about the prestige of a son on a mission than their athletic careers. No wonder those kids are going to BYU; they're brainwashed. When I was a kid BYU basketball players never went on missions. Nobody gave it a second thought when Ainge didn't go. In fact, Devin Durrant started this, and when he said he was going that is what raised eyebrows.
                          For the record I support the kids whether they choose to serve a mission or choose not to.

                          There is an old saying, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Let them worry about theirs.

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                          • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            I agree.
                            Oh be quiet. You need to take the bad with the good. The same insidioiusness that got them on missions induced them to sign with BYU.
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                              History shows that for basketball players this is devastating to their development trajectory.
                              Tyler Haws and Kyle Collinsworth say hi.

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                              • Originally posted by Crockett View Post
                                Tyler Haws and Kyle Collinsworth say hi.
                                Tyler Haws and Kyle Collinsworth -- your best guard line in history (pe CJ) --are 5-4 in the WCC. Just imagine what might have been. How many RMs have had NBA careers of any moment? This is significant, because demonstrably Mormon/Utah culture is extremely sports crazy and turns out a disproporationate number of of athletes.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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