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  • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
    Sometimes it really sucks when the forecaster turns out right. Oh well.

    Current and (Projected) RPI ratings per realtimerpi.com:

    BYU - 22 (19)
    Stanford - 73 (42)
    Iowa State - 13 (13)
    Texas - 31 (47)
    Wichita State - 12 (8)
    Utah State - 56 (50)
    Massachusetts - 1 (10)
    Utah - 110 (112)
    Oregon - 7 (3)
    Gonzaga - 17 (18)
    Pacific - 26 (22)
    St. Mary's - 11 (12)

    Projected losses per realtimerpi:

    at Oregon (by 17)
    at Gonzaga (by 14)
    at Pacific (by 9)
    at St. Mary's (by 13)

    If all goes as projected (which it won't), here are the records against varying RPI brackets:

    vs. RPI top 25: 3-7
    vs. RPI 26-50: 3-0
    vs. RPI 51-100: 0-0
    vs. RPI 101+: 17-1

    Under that scenario, I'd think BYU would definitely be in the dance and would be seeded somewhere in the 6-9 range.
    So this would seem to confirm that the Utah loss will most likely be our worst loss of the season. Figures.
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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      So this would seem to confirm that the Utah loss will most likely be our worst loss of the season. Figures.
      Lunardis latest bracketology is out and he has BYU as a 10 seed.

      http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

      Unfortunately the Utes are not among the last four out, the next four out, or the next four after that.

      A few wins would really help this from looking like a bad loss.
      Last edited by cougjunkie; 12-16-2013, 09:46 AM.
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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        So this would seem to confirm that the Utah loss will most likely be our worst loss of the season. Figures.
        Yip. Assuming we don't screw the pooch against one of the really bad WCC teams.
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        • So is anyone concerned about the quality of Dave Rose's coaching staff? Dave Rose is without a doubt the best coach in the State of Utah, but his staff is weak in comparison to Utah's staff.

          LaComb and Nashif both seem very unqualified for their jobs on the staff. Nashif had no coaching experience prior to coming to BYU. His only experience was 2 years as Director of Basketball Operations. LaComb's only previous coaching experience to BYU was being an assistant coach at the high school level. He also was a team manager at Utah under Majerus and video coordinator under Giac.

          Pope appears to be a very good assistant, especially with recruiting, but even he has limited experience before BYU.

          Compare this to Utah's coaching staff.

          Tommy Connor. Graduate assistant for Majerus for 2 seasons. 3 seasons as an assistant coach for Majerus. 12 years head coaching experience at Westminster college.

          DeMarlo Slocum. Assistant at Dixie St for 1 season. Assistant at Idaho for 2 seasons. Assistant at Colorado St for 3 seasons.

          Andy Hill. Assistant coach at Whitworth for 1 season. Assistant at Montana for 7 seasons.

          I would trade Krystkowiak for Rose without hesitation, but I certainly would not swap assistants.
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          • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
            So is anyone concerned about the quality of Dave Rose's coaching staff? Dave Rose is without a doubt the best coach in the State of Utah, but his staff is weak in comparison to Utah's staff.

            LaComb and Nashif both seem very unqualified for their jobs on the staff. Nashif had no coaching experience prior to coming to BYU. His only experience was 2 years as Director of Basketball Operations. LaComb's only previous coaching experience to BYU was being an assistant coach at the high school level. He also was a team manager at Utah under Majerus and video coordinator under Giac.

            Pope appears to be a very good assistant, especially with recruiting, but even he has limited experience before BYU.

            Compare this to Utah's coaching staff.

            Tommy Connor. Graduate assistant for Majerus for 2 seasons. 3 seasons as an assistant coach for Majerus. 12 years head coaching experience at Westminster college.

            DeMarlo Slocum. Assistant at Dixie St for 1 season. Assistant at Idaho for 2 seasons. Assistant at Colorado St for 3 seasons.

            Andy Hill. Assistant coach at Whitworth for 1 season. Assistant at Montana for 7 seasons.

            I would trade Krystkowiak for Rose without hesitation, but I certainly would not swap assistants.
            You forgot Mike Hall as director of basketball operations!

            BYUs staff is interesting. I think Pope is a good big man coach, a great recruiter, and has been a huge addition. It came down to Pope and Matt Stock who has been an assistant at UCSB for the past 10 seasons. Pope has enough playing experience and coached at Georgia and Wake before coming to BYU, he has been in the game long enough.

            Nashif I don't understand. He was the big man coach and now coaches the offense. One thing I will say about Nashif is that he designs all of BYUs inbounds plays, which are exceptional. However he is also in charge of the half-court offense which is horrid.

            LaComb runs the defense, in my opinion he is the one most on the hot seat. I was actually surprised when he was hired. The players really like him and I am sure he is a great guy. But like you said he really had no coaching experience. I will say that most director of Bball operations do act as assistant coaches and help run portions of practice. But this is his first legit coaching job and the defense has clearly been a weak spot.

            I want Heath Shroyer back to coach the D.
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            • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
              You forgot Mike Hall as director of basketball operations!

              BYUs staff is interesting. I think Pope is a good big man coach, a great recruiter, and has been a huge addition. It came down to Pope and Matt Stock who has been an assistant at UCSB for the past 10 seasons. Pope has enough playing experience and coached at Georgia and Wake before coming to BYU, he has been in the game long enough.

              Nashif I don't understand. He was the big man coach and now coaches the offense. One thing I will say about Nashif is that he designs all of BYUs inbounds plays, which are exceptional. However he is also in charge of the half-court offense which is horrid.

              LaComb runs the defense, in my opinion he is the one most on the hot seat. I was actually surprised when he was hired. The players really like him and I am sure he is a great guy. But like you said he really had no coaching experience. I will say that most director of Bball operations do act as assistant coaches and help run portions of practice. But this is his first legit coaching job and the defense has clearly been a weak spot.

              I want Heath Shroyer back to coach the D.
              Nice point with Mike Hall. Although it looks like he has been replaced by Cody Fueger.
              http://byucougars.com/staff/m-basketball/cody-fueger

              Utah's director of basketball operations, Norm Parish. 20 years as head coach of Salt Lake Community College.

              Pope seemed unimpressive to me when he was hired, but I was obviously wrong. Recruiting is such a huge part of being an assistant coach, and he seems to have a hand in every impressive recruit that BYU has brought on staff. It also sounds like he was a big part of Parker even listening to BYU. His recruiting alone justifies his spot.

              DeMarlo Slocum's spot on Utah's roster is justified by his recruiting. I really don't know what he really contributes as a coach and it doesn't really matter.
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              • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                Nice point with Mike Hall. Although it looks like he has been replaced by Cody Fueger.
                http://byucougars.com/staff/m-basketball/cody-fueger

                Utah's director of basketball operations, Norm Parish. 20 years as head coach of Salt Lake Community College.

                Pope seemed unimpressive to me when he was hired, but I was obviously wrong. Recruiting is such a huge part of being an assistant coach, and he seems to have a hand in every impressive recruit that BYU has brought on staff. It also sounds like he was a big part of Parker even listening to BYU. His recruiting alone justifies his spot.

                DeMarlo Slocum's spot on Utah's roster is justified by his recruiting. I really don't know what he really contributes as a coach and it doesn't really matter.
                I had no idea Hall was reassigned as an academic advisor. Interesting.

                Cody Fueger is even worse. We also lose Halls recruiting ability, he was a solid recruiter and a great defender in college who could probably teach a few things to the team.

                This is who I want BYU to bring in to replace Nashif.

                http://www.ucsbgauchos.com/sports/m-...ck_matt00.html

                Then bring in Schroyer to replace LaComb.

                http://www.unlvrebels.com/sports/m-b...r_heath00.html
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                • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                  So is anyone concerned about the quality of Dave Rose's coaching staff? Dave Rose is without a doubt the best coach in the State of Utah, but his staff is weak in comparison to Utah's staff.

                  LaComb and Nashif both seem very unqualified for their jobs on the staff. Nashif had no coaching experience prior to coming to BYU. His only experience was 2 years as Director of Basketball Operations. LaComb's only previous coaching experience to BYU was being an assistant coach at the high school level. He also was a team manager at Utah under Majerus and video coordinator under Giac.

                  Pope appears to be a very good assistant, especially with recruiting, but even he has limited experience before BYU.

                  Compare this to Utah's coaching staff.

                  Tommy Connor. Graduate assistant for Majerus for 2 seasons. 3 seasons as an assistant coach for Majerus. 12 years head coaching experience at Westminster college.

                  DeMarlo Slocum. Assistant at Dixie St for 1 season. Assistant at Idaho for 2 seasons. Assistant at Colorado St for 3 seasons.

                  Andy Hill. Assistant coach at Whitworth for 1 season. Assistant at Montana for 7 seasons.

                  I would trade Krystkowiak for Rose without hesitation, but I certainly would not swap assistants.
                  I am concerned about Rose's ongoing indifference towards defense. I lay that at his feet, not his assistants, although I dont disagree with your assessment of Nashif, especially. Pope is a great assistant coach and could eventually be a good head coach somewhere, maybe even at BYU. Hartsock is an awesome grad assistant!
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                  • One major addition to the staff is Bob Medina. He is not a coach but I am not sure a team in the country has a strength coordinator with a better resume.

                    Clearly Nate Austin is not listening to him.

                    http://byucougars.com/staff/m-basketball/bob-medina
                    Last edited by cougjunkie; 12-16-2013, 12:44 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                      Sometimes it really sucks when the forecaster turns out right. Oh well.

                      Current and (Projected) RPI ratings per realtimerpi.com:

                      BYU - 22 (19)
                      Stanford - 73 (42)
                      Iowa State - 13 (13)
                      Texas - 31 (47)
                      Wichita State - 12 (8)
                      Utah State - 56 (50)
                      Massachusetts - 1 (10)
                      Utah - 110 (112)
                      Oregon - 7 (3)
                      Gonzaga - 17 (18)
                      Pacific - 26 (22)
                      St. Mary's - 11 (12)

                      Projected losses per realtimerpi:

                      at Oregon (by 17)
                      at Gonzaga (by 14)
                      at Pacific (by 9)
                      at St. Mary's (by 13)

                      If all goes as projected (which it won't), here are the records against varying RPI brackets:

                      vs. RPI top 25: 3-7
                      vs. RPI 26-50: 3-0
                      vs. RPI 51-100: 0-0
                      vs. RPI 101+: 17-1

                      Under that scenario, I'd think BYU would definitely be in the dance and would be seeded somewhere in the 6-9 range.
                      Current and (Projected) RPI ratings per realtimerpi.com:

                      BYU - 18 (26)
                      Stanford - 56 (78)
                      Iowa State - 5 (7)
                      Texas - 23 (45)
                      Wichita State - 7 (13)
                      Utah State - 58 (39)
                      Massachusetts - 2 (9)
                      Utah - 145 (88)
                      Oregon - 6 (12)
                      Gonzaga - 20 (22)
                      Pacific - 27 (71)
                      St. Mary's - 68 (33)
                      Portland - 133 (113)

                      Projected losses per realtimerpi:

                      at Portland (by 2)
                      at Gonzaga (by 12)
                      at Pacific (by 5)
                      at St. Mary's (by 13)

                      If all goes as projected (which it won't), here are the records against varying RPI brackets:

                      vs. RPI top 25: 1-5
                      vs. RPI 26-50: 3-1
                      vs. RPI 51-100: 2-2
                      vs. RPI 101+: 16-1

                      Under that scenario, I'd think BYU would be dangerously on the bubble.
                      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                      - Goatnapper'96

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                      • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                        Current and (Projected) RPI ratings per realtimerpi.com:

                        BYU - 18 (26)
                        Stanford - 56 (78)
                        Iowa State - 5 (7)
                        Texas - 23 (45)
                        Wichita State - 7 (13)
                        Utah State - 58 (39)
                        Massachusetts - 2 (9)
                        Utah - 145 (88)
                        Oregon - 6 (12)
                        Gonzaga - 20 (22)
                        Pacific - 27 (71)
                        St. Mary's - 68 (33)
                        Portland - 133 (113)

                        Projected losses per realtimerpi:

                        at Portland (by 2)
                        at Gonzaga (by 12)
                        at Pacific (by 5)
                        at St. Mary's (by 13)

                        If all goes as projected (which it won't), here are the records against varying RPI brackets:

                        vs. RPI top 25: 1-5
                        vs. RPI 26-50: 3-1
                        vs. RPI 51-100: 2-2
                        vs. RPI 101+: 16-1

                        Under that scenario, I'd think BYU would be dangerously on the bubble.
                        Who can guess which team fits the following projected profile:

                        vs. RPI top 25: 1-5
                        vs. RPI 26-50: 3-1
                        vs. RPI 51-100: 3-3
                        vs. RPI 101+: 13-2
                        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                        - Goatnapper'96

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                        • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                          Who can guess which team fits the following projected profile:

                          vs. RPI top 25: 1-5
                          vs. RPI 26-50: 3-1
                          vs. RPI 51-100: 3-3
                          vs. RPI 101+: 13-2
                          To make it easier, here's their record against current RPI ranking brackets:

                          vs. RPI top 25: 0-2
                          vs. RPI 26-50: 0-0
                          vs. RPI 51-100: 2-0
                          vs. RPI 101+: 7-0
                          "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                          - Goatnapper'96

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                          • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                            To make it easier, here's their record against current RPI ranking brackets:

                            vs. RPI top 25: 0-2
                            vs. RPI 26-50: 0-0
                            vs. RPI 51-100: 2-0
                            vs. RPI 101+: 7-0
                            Zags?
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                            • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                              To make it easier, here's their record against current RPI ranking brackets:

                              vs. RPI top 25: 0-2
                              vs. RPI 26-50: 0-0
                              vs. RPI 51-100: 2-0
                              vs. RPI 101+: 7-0
                              Zags were my first thought. Dukies were my second guess, but it seems like they finally had a quality win recently.
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                              • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                                Current and (Projected) RPI ratings per realtimerpi.com:

                                BYU - 18 (26)
                                Stanford - 56 (78)
                                Iowa State - 5 (7)
                                Texas - 23 (45)
                                Wichita State - 7 (13)
                                Utah State - 58 (39)
                                Massachusetts - 2 (9)
                                Utah - 145 (88)
                                Oregon - 6 (12)
                                Gonzaga - 20 (22)
                                Pacific - 27 (71)
                                St. Mary's - 68 (33)
                                Portland - 133 (113)

                                Projected losses per realtimerpi:

                                at Portland (by 2)
                                at Gonzaga (by 12)
                                at Pacific (by 5)
                                at St. Mary's (by 13)

                                If all goes as projected (which it won't), here are the records against varying RPI brackets:

                                vs. RPI top 25: 1-5
                                vs. RPI 26-50: 3-1
                                vs. RPI 51-100: 2-2
                                vs. RPI 101+: 16-1

                                Under that scenario, I'd think BYU would be dangerously on the bubble.
                                And here's BYU's current record against current RPI ranking brackets:

                                vs. RPI top 25: 1-4
                                vs. RPI 26-50: 0-0
                                vs. RPI 51-100: 2-0
                                vs. RPI 101+: 5-1
                                "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                                - Goatnapper'96

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