BYU Hoops 2013-2014

[Omaha 680]

So reading about the game I see Portland shot 61% from 3 making 14. Was this horrible defense or is it another team that got incredibly hot against us?

[SCcoug]

So reading about the game I see Portland shot 61% from 3 making 14. Was this horrible defense or is it another team that got incredibly hot against us?

Worse. A back up scrub went 8-13. Several of them were circus shots with good D.

[USUC]

So reading about the game I see Portland shot 61% from 3 making 14. Was this horrible defense or is it another team that got incredibly hot against us?

I don't think it is a coincidence that the WCC losses all came with near season high offensive numbers for the opponent.

[Goatnapper'96]

This is the first team of the Dave Rose era where I feel like the whole is less than the sum of the parts. This team is not any better than last years team yet I think it is far more talented and deeper. Inconsistency and poor defense doesn't speak well of the job Coach has done with this group. I don't think this group has 2nd weekend potential but I think they should be an at large team with a decent shot of winning a first round game. If they can get a good transfer center, either JC or a graduate with eligibility remaining, they might find themselves next year. I am not confident a team with Tyler Haws as their best player can be a 2nd weekend squad but I do think with one good pick up at the 5 and some good luck in the preseason with some decent wins they could get a seed high enough to get a first round win, which would satisfy me immensely.

I just think that collectively a team with Haws, Collinsworth, Carlino, Mika, Halford with the role players of Bartley, Austin, Winder and Sharp/Worthington should be good enough to win road games at Pepperdine, LMU and Portland. The poor foul shooting and inconsistency are maddening for fans.

[USUC]

Worse. A back up scrub went 8-13. Several of them were circus shots with good D.

So there has to be some kind of divine intervention? The Catholic God > Mormon God.

[Goatnapper'96]

I don't think it is a coincidence that the WCC losses all came with near season high offensive numbers for the opponent.

I agree. I try not to be a typical internet dick who pretends he has all the answers while an experienced and splendid HC like Rose struggles, but I wonder if asking Collinsworth to do too much on offense by being a PG is taking away the only potential defensive stopper BYU has on the perimeter. FTR, I must admit that I haven't watched much since the Oregon choke job on TV but the consistent good offensive performances from opponents has its roots in poor BYU defense, IMO. I think the inability to have one defender who can lock down an opposing good perimeter player hurts BYU. I was expecting Collinsworth to play that role this year but it doesn't appear to be materializing.

[The_Douger]

This is the first team of the Dave Rose era where I feel like the whole is less than the sum of the parts. This team is not any better than last years team yet I think it is far more talented and deeper. Inconsistency and poor defense doesn't speak well of the job Coach has done with this group. I don't think this group has 2nd weekend potential but I think they should be an at large team with a decent shot of winning a first round game. If they can get a good transfer center, either JC or a graduate with eligibility remaining, they might find themselves next year. I am not confident a team with Tyler Haws as their best player can be a 2nd weekend squad but I do think with one good pick up at the 5 and some good luck in the preseason with some decent wins they could get a seed high enough to get a first round win, which would satisfy me immensely.

I just think that collectively a team with Haws, Collinsworth, Carlino, Mika, Halford with the role players of Bartley, Austin, Winder and Sharp/Worthington should be good enough to win road games at Pepperdine, LMU and Portland. The poor foul shooting and inconsistency are maddening for fans.

Completely agreed.

Collinsworth's FT shooting is maddening. There's no reason he should shoot it from the stripe as poorly as he does. It's been discussed here ad nauseum, but it's tiresome to see us lose to Florida his freshman year with that being a factor and years later there's no improvement.

[SCcoug]

I don't think it is a coincidence that the WCC losses all came with near season high offensive numbers for the opponent.

Also either a awful game from one or poor game from a couple of Haws, Carlino, Mika or Collinsworth. The game at Pepperdine Calino was terrible. Versus LMU we got a poor showing by Haws and Carlino.

The Portland game both Mika and KC struggled mightly. KC couldn't finish at the rim and of course the FT line. Without Mika we have zero scoring threat from the front court. We also got killed on the boards for much of the game.

[cougjunkie]

I thought BYU played a good game last night. We had some defensive lapses but overall they played solid. The offense runs so much better with Carlino at the point as opposed to KC. KC does a lot of things well and he is the ultimate glue guy (like Mike Dunleavy at Duke) but he is not a number 1 option or even a true point guard. We are much slower in transition, our half court offense slows way down, and it is tough for our bigs to work in the paint as KCs man doesn't respect his jumper.

The play by Carlino slapping the inbounds to Haws to tie the game was awesome. Haws was nails most of the game although he finished 4-12 shooting. I think that was more tired legs.

Defensively I have two complaints:
1. Why did we have Halford on that Bobby Sharp the entire game? Halford is a good defender and he stayed in front of him just fine but Sharp rose up and shot over him. We did finally put KC on him the last possession and he made another crazy shot, so maybe it doesn't matter. I would have still liked to see a bigger defender.
2. Why didn't we press earlier or more often? They struggled mightily against the full court pressure. I mean they were horrendous, even in the third OT we waited too long to get in to our press.

[wapiti]

I had a church game tonight and went 5 for 6 from the line. It was the 3rd time I have picked up a ball in 9 months. I will never understand poor free throw shooting in college basketball.

[Blueintheface]

Completely agreed.

Collinsworth's FT shooting is maddening. There's no reason he should shoot it from the stripe as poorly as he does. It's been discussed here ad nauseum, but it's tiresome to see us lose to Florida his freshman year with that being a factor and years later there's no improvement.

And by all means don't shoot the same shot each time, Kyle. And on the second shot be sure to bail upcourt as the ball leaves your hands thus causing an overcompensation and back rim shot.

[cougjunkie]

One other thing I love about Carlino. Nobody anticipates a lead pass on the fast break better than Carlino. It is crazy how many times he can jump the passing line while back pedaling on the break snatching the ball out of the air one handed. He seems to do this every game.

[MartyFunkhouser]

According to realtimerpi.com, Utah is once again the worst loss of our season:

5 - Massachussetts
9 - Iowa State
10 - Wichita State
20 - Oregon
123 - Pepperdine
153 - Loyola Marymount
159 - Utah

Oh, and we are still Utah's best win:

40 - BYU
100+ - 3 teams
200+ - 4 teams
300+ - 3 teams

Good news, Utah is no longer your worst loss on the season. In fact, you now have 2 losses worse than Utah (LMU and Portland).

I realize that Utah is still in misery, but at least we have some company this year. I'm still not entirely sure if Utah or BYU is the better team this year. I guess Loveridge hasn't yet missed out on his chances to make the NCAA tournament by selecting Utah over BYU.

[wapiti]

Good news, Utah is no longer your worst loss on the season. In fact, you now have 2 losses worse than Utah (LMU and Portland).

I realize that Utah is still in misery, but at least we have some company this year. I'm still not entirely sure if Utah or BYU is the better team this year. I guess Loveridge hasn't yet missed out on his chances to make the NCAA tournament by selecting Utah over BYU.

Except with Loveridge BYU is a tournament team last year and this year.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Except with Loveridge BYU is a tournament team last year and this year.

Junkie has told me he is fat and not very good. I'm not sure how a fat mediocre PF is going to make you a tournament team.