BYU hoops for 2012-2013

[Goatnapper'96]

It's official. Damarcus announced today that he is going on a mission and plans to leave this summer. He'll be back for 2014.

I think this is why he is playing better. The uncertainity and stress as he dealt with coming to this decision is, IMO, part of the reason he never found a comfort zone for most of this year. In the classic book "Big Steps" former Cougar superstar Shawn Bradley referenced a similar experience. I hope Demarcus doesn't skip straight to the NBA upon his return!

[oxcoug]

Can one of the hoopier types in these parts give me a theory on why it seems Rose's teams tend to start slow? I mean - catastrophically slow.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Davies had a nice finish to this season. His averages over the last 7 games:

19.7 ppg, 7 rpg, 1.5 bpg, 1.5 spg

In the "two" tourney games, his totals were 18/15 and 19/11.

But he also made only 13 of his last 32 FT attempts. He'd had a nice improvement this year at the line until that abysmal finish.

As the season went along I think he did well in adding variety to his game, adding more quick moves to his methodical post game, and showing different looks when he faces up. FT shooting and passing out of doubles should priority areas of improvement.

[Goatnapper'96]

Can one of the hoopier types in these parts give me a theory on why it seems Rose's teams tend to start slow? I mean - catastrophically slow.

They don't. In fact I think his teams give up more leads than comebacks.

Saying that the likely answer to explain the instances your are thinking of is the result of lack of athleticism. Not playing consistently or practicing against really athletic teams results in his teams having to adjust when faced with that type of talent.

[Goatnapper'96]

Davies had a nice finish to this season. His averages over the last 7 games:

19.7 ppg, 7 rpg, 1.5 bpg, 1.5 spg

In the "two" tourney games, his totals were 18/15 and 19/11.

But he also made only 13 of his last 32 FT attempts. He'd had a nice improvement this year at the line until that abysmal finish.

As the season went along I think he did well in adding variety to his game, adding more quick moves to his methodical post game, and showing different looks when he faces up. FT shooting and passing out of doubles should priority areas of improvement.

I really think that with his back to basket play BYU could have some really great runs if Rogers gets healthy, Haws is not overly rusty and Carlino improves and plays to his potential as a sophmore.

I really think BYU takes a step forward next year. They might still lose their first round game and that will result in weeping, whining, stringpulling and gnashing of teethe about Jabari Parker going elsewhere but that step next year will be a jump the year after.

[Jacob]

It's official. Damarcus announced today that he is going on a mission and plans to leave this summer. He'll be back for 2014.

Bummer. Even worse, he said late summer. We'll be looking at a 23 yo soph.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I think BYU will be better next year than this. Not a good team yet but better than this year. It is my entirely uneducated opinion that Carlino's improved and more consistent play will be the key. If he is more under control and a better decision maker, I think it will make every one much better. I see BYU next year as similar to the way they were in years 2-4 of Rose era, a team that hovers around the top 25 during conference play and then gets an 8 or 9 seed in the dance and will either win or lose a close first round game.

But if Matty follows the Tavernari model of not improving his decision making then BYU will not be better, IMO. Time will tell but I think a healthy Rogers and the return of Haws will lift the perimeter burden off of young MattyC and that will lead to more control, better decision making and better play.

Amen. BYU basketball will go as Matty Ice goes next year.

[Blueintheface]

Bummer. Even worse, he said late summer. We'll be looking at a 23 yo soph.

Debbie Downer.

[smokymountainrain]

Amen. BYU basketball will go as Matty Ice goes next year.

No question.

[oxcoug]

Just saw that Delgado shot 41.4% from deep at the JC level last year - obviously it helps that he wasn't facing a high level of defensive talent, but that's a welcome number for a program that slummed at 34% levels this past year.

What else do we know about Delgado? Does it look like he can play defense?

It seems that with Haws back, Delgado and hopefully (a) Rogers being healthy and (b) Carlino getting more consistent from the outside that we have a chance of significantly improving our overall deep shooting (obviously losing Noah hurts it but it seems like there will be more total outside threats) and opening up the inside for Davies to have a big senior year.

I'm slowly transitioning to being more of a BYU hoops fan than I am football fan.

[jay santos]

Just saw that Delgado shot 41.4% from deep at the JC level last year - obviously it helps that he wasn't facing a high level of defensive talent, but that's a welcome number for a program that slummed at 34% levels this past year.

What else do we know about Delgado? Does it look like he can play defense?

It seems that with Haws back, Delgado and hopefully (a) Rogers being healthy and (b) Carlino getting more consistent from the outside that we have a chance of significantly improving our overall deep shooting (obviously losing Noah hurts it but it seems like there will be more total outside threats) and opening up the inside for Davies to have a big senior year.

I'm slowly transitioning to being more of a BYU hoops fan than I am football fan.

Coming out of high school he was known as a freak athlete with major hops and extreme quickness and pretty strong for a guard. His skills were a little raw, so I am very encouraged that he shot 41% from three.

[oxcoug]

Coming out of high school he was known as a freak athlete with major hops and extreme quickness and pretty strong for a guard. His skills were a little raw, so I am very encouraged that he shot 41% from three.

Interesting.

When he signed with Western Nebraska, Delgado was known as a defensive stopper and a slasher, but not as someone with much of an outside shot. Not happy with his designation, he set about tirelessly to improve his shot.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...-BYU.html?pg=2

I'm cautiously excited about this guy. Also was unaware - since the last name is somewhat ambiguous - that he is going to help reduce the usual pasty glare of BYU basketball personnel.

[Indy Coug]

Just saw that Delgado shot 41.4% from deep at the JC level last year - obviously it helps that he wasn't facing a high level of defensive talent, but that's a welcome number for a program that slummed at 34% levels this past year.

What else do we know about Delgado? Does it look like he can play defense?

It seems that with Haws back, Delgado and hopefully (a) Rogers being healthy and (b) Carlino getting more consistent from the outside that we have a chance of significantly improving our overall deep shooting (obviously losing Noah hurts it but it seems like there will be more total outside threats) and opening up the inside for Davies to have a big senior year.

I'm slowly transitioning to being more of a BYU hoops fan than I am football fan.

There's a gigantic range of what BYU might accomplish next year. IF

• Carlino develops into a consistent offensive threat and learns to take care of the ball
• Haws comes back not looking like a recently returned missionary
• Rogers comes back 100%
• Delgado can make the transition to D-1
• Collinsworth can rebound from multiple microfracture surgeries to be anywhere near the type of player he could have otherwise been
• Austin continues to develop as an effective scorer and rebounder
• Harward is the solid bench option that Austin was this year
• Winder becomes a much more consistent shooter

Then BYU might be as good or better than this year. However, my guess is that at least half of the items above won't happen.

[jay santos]

There's a gigantic range of what BYU might accomplish next year. IF

• 1 Carlino develops into a consistent offensive threat and learns to take care of the ball
• 2 Haws comes back not looking like a recently returned missionary
• 3 Rogers comes back 100%
• 4 Delgado can make the transition to D-1
• 5 Collinsworth can rebound from multiple microfracture surgeries to be anywhere near the type of player he could have otherwise been
• 6 Austin continues to develop as an effective scorer and rebounder
• 7 Harward is the solid bench option that Austin was this year
• 8 Winder becomes a much more consistent shooter

Then BYU might be as good or better than this year. However, my guess is that at least half of the items above won't happen.

My guess
1. He improves but not as much as we hope.
2. 50-50
3. I'm skeptical
4. Optimistic
5. Doubtful
6. Very bullish on this
7. He's a different kind of player, but I'm hopeful.
8. Somewhat optimist about this.

[Jacob]

There's a gigantic range of what BYU might accomplish next year. IF

• Carlino develops into a consistent offensive threat and learns to take care of the ball
• Haws comes back not looking like a recently returned missionary
• Rogers comes back 100%
• Delgado can make the transition to D-1
• Collinsworth can rebound from multiple microfracture surgeries to be anywhere near the type of player he could have otherwise been
• Austin continues to develop as an effective scorer and rebounder
• Harward is the solid bench option that Austin was this year
• Winder becomes a much more consistent shooter

Then BYU might be as good or better than this year. However, my guess is that at least half of the items above won't happen.

I think you are over-rating this year's team. They weren't especially good (they would have been better without the injuries, but that's not what happend. Davies should be able to lead next year's team to 3rd place in the WCC without any difficulty--win one out of 5 vs Saint Mary's and Gonzaga and only lose once to the rest of the bad teams in the conference. Hawes will adequately replace Abuou and probably more than adequately because of his offensive consistency. Carlino will improve at least a little. Austin will improve at least a little. Assuming we see an effecting Davies for a full year, next year's team will be just as good as this year's team even with only those minor improvements I've mentioned.