West Coast Conference 2011-12

[myboynoah]

Zags are terrible on the road. We had the lead with 90 seconds remaining and turned it over 3 consecutive possessions to lose the game. We had the game won and handed it over.

This particular Zag team is flat-out bad away from Spokane. All season. Just look at our box scores and schedule.

A-mazing at the Kennel, solid on neutral floors, horrific away...it didn't help the refs called 7 more fouls on us than the home team, but ya know, that's WCC refs for ya'...at one point they called 7 straight fouls on us, including 4 offensive charges, which were borderline at best.

Its what you get when two freshman start in the backcourt, I suppose.

These guys are all-stars at home though...

21 TO's tonight. Nasty.

Still think we rally next Thurs vs BYU. Only reason = home game.

Maybe we can find a way to win in Vegas b/c its a neutral court, otherwise, our young guys will crumble and play rattled = Zags loss.

Props to hr for coming around after a tough loss. Here's to a similar visit later this week.

[Maximus]

Nice to see both the Zags and St Mary's exposed on the same day.

I wouldn't be talking smack about either team as a Utah fan or even as a pac member. Zaga beat one of the best pac teams and has no bad losses. Only lost to msu by 7.

[Maximus]

And how is losing to a good ranked team being exposed?

[MartyFunkhouser]

I wouldn't be talking smack about either team as a Utah fan or even as a pac member. Zaga beat one of the best pac teams and has no bad losses. Only lost to msu by 7.

I guess you missed last nights game if you think that the Zags have no bad losses. They lost lost to San Francisco.

Also, the fact that you bring up the Zags losing to Michigan St by 7 points is a great example of the lack of quality wins by the Zags.

[MartyFunkhouser]

And how is losing to a good ranked team being exposed?

They didn't just lose, they didn't even compete in the game. It was a blowout pretty much from start to finish. That makes St Mary's an impressive 1-2 in road non-conference games.

I'm not sure how a lower tier conference team can justify only playing 3 non-conference road games, especially when they have only 2 difficult road games in conference. They were 1-1 in the difficult conference road games. They have 1 quality road win all year.

[Maximus]

I guess you missed last nights game if you think that the Zags have no bad losses. They lost lost to San Francisco.

Also, the fact that you bring up the Zags losing to Michigan St by 7 points is a great example of the lack of quality wins by the Zags.

Besides beating one of the top teams in the PAC? I guess San Fran can qualify as a bad loss, even though they are 18-11 so not that bad. Gonzaga also has wins over ND (second in the Big east) and the decent Xavier.

[Omaha 680]

Am I reading this right? The 1/2 seeds in the WCC tournament have byes all the way to the semifinals?

http://www.wccsports.com/ot/west-baskbl-tournament.html

I guess the Gonzaga game is pretty important. I'm still thinking about doing a weekend in Vegas for the tourney. If not, this might be the first season in forever I don't attend one BYU basketball game.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Besides beating one of the top teams in the PAC? I guess San Fran can qualify as a bad loss, even though they are 18-11 so not that bad. Gonzaga also has wins over ND (second in the Big east) and the decent Xavier.

All I hear from WCC fans is how the Pac-12 is terrible, how the WCC is so much better, and how it should be a one bid league, etc., except for when they want to talk up the Zags win over a 4th place Arizona.

USF is 18-11 because they get to play a bunch of terrible WCC teams. They are 153 in Sagarin and 159 in RPI. That is a bad loss.

Xavier and Notre Dame are decent wins, but nothing that impressive.

[LiveCoug]

All I hear from WCC fans is how the Pac-12 is terrible, how the WCC is so much better, and how it should be a one bid league, etc., except for when they want to talk up the Zags win over a 4th place Arizona.

USF is 18-11 because they get to play a bunch of terrible WCC teams. They are 153 in Sagarin and 159 in RPI. That is a bad loss.

Xavier and Notre Dame are decent wins, but nothing that impressive.

The Pac 12 is terrible. How would anyone deny that? WCC is also terrible.

Pac still gets by on reputation alone. This year though? Good heavens that is an awful conference and I would say that THIS YEAR the WCC is better. That isn't saying much.

[KillerDog]

The Pac 12 is terrible. How would anyone deny that? WCC is also terrible.

Pac still gets by on reputation alone. This year though? Good heavens that is an awful conference and I would say that THIS YEAR the WCC is better. That isn't saying much.

The Pac isn't that bad. Utah is dragging it down a bit but otherwise it is a solid conference.

[CardiacCoug]

Looks like BYUTV is televising a lot of the games in the WCC Tourney.

http://www.wccsports.com/ot/west-baskbl-tournament.html

Kind of funny how they put "Religious Services (Orleans Hotel, Times TBD)" on the schedule for Sunday. I don't remember ever seeing that on the MWC tournament schedule.

[TripletDaddy]

I received a text from a friend asking, "are you in Vegas?"

I responded, "what?? Why would I be in Vegas? I'm at home watching the news."

He responded, "I thought you would go the to tournament."

I completely forgot that the WCC tournament is this week. I checked online and apparently some of the games were today? Does anyone even care about this tournament?

[hostile]

Looks like BYUTV is televising a lot of the games in the WCC Tourney.

http://www.wccsports.com/ot/west-baskbl-tournament.html

Kind of funny how they put "Religious Services (Orleans Hotel, Times TBD)" on the schedule for Sunday. I don't remember ever seeing that on the MWC tournament schedule.

Because the MWC tournament was finished by Saturday evening.

[higherroad]

I completely forgot that the WCC tournament is this week. I checked online and apparently some of the games were today? Does anyone even care about this tournament?

You can't be serious. You forget the /sarcasm at the end of your post.

Your friend has the right idea.

The upcoming WCC Tournament features two ranked teams and most likely a 3-bid conference this season.

Every pundit, analyst, talking head has BYU, SMC, & GU in the NCAA's and that is more than exciting. If not, BYU still has a fighting chance to secure a bid and exact revenge on two teams that beat them this season.

This tourney is also a 5-team race as the 4th & 5th seeds both have 19+ wins under the belt and fighting for the Championship alongside the "Big 3". LMU & USF are both solid ball clubs with good players and more than capable of advancing.

Its going to be fun. You're missing out if you don't tune in.

Gonzaga expects several thousand in attendance and I'll be one of them -- win or lose.

The Orleans Arena is also a terrific venue, cozy, loud, raucous, and competing fans go back 'n forth trying to create a home atmosphere on a neutral floor.

fwiw, BYU plays USD tonight with a chance to advance and play Gonzaga on Saturday night on ESPN. Winner advances to Monday night's Championship game.

Besides, its not like your old conference is playing great bball lately and will most likely match the WCC in terms of auto bids. Most MWC teams have been struggling as of late, just look at the emergence of CSU & TCU, and above all else, New Mexico is set to win the MWC Championship(at least tie) this year with 4 Conference losses and they lost to Santa Clara this season, who went 0-16 in WCC play. Boom. The last time MWC had 3 bids was a few years ago and they went 1-3, last time WCC had 3 bids was in 2009 and went 3-3.

Anyway, Vegas is a fun city, Orleans is a fun arena, watching WCC teams go at for a chance to control their own destiny come Selection Sunday is a fun weekend, imo.

Enjoy the season while it lasts. This could be a HUGE weekend for Coach Rose & Co., also heard Hartsock is getting "better by the minute" and Abouo is amped as well, they're both Seniors -- why aren't you? I have a feeling I'm more excited for BYU than you are.

Heck, even the Gonzaga & BYU girls teams are #1 & #2 seeds of their Tourney and I fully plan to attend that Championship game as well. Both are a locks for NCAA Tourney.

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[jay santos]

Excluding BYU, teams in the RPI top 100

MWC: 6
WCC: 2