The official Dave Rice is a better coach than Special K thread..........

[MartyFunkhouser]

not really. he mentioned texas and baylor.

A desperate man trying to desperately raise the profile of his dying conference. He mentioned Texas in the context of BYU trying to beg and plead for respect for his teams that either beat/loss to BYU. He mentioned Baylor to try to bed and plead for respect for UCF. If BYU had beat Utah, he would have mentioned them, but we know that isn't happening even if they did play.

So a Commissioner of a dying league mentions BYU while also complaining about his teams not being "power conference" teams. Not sure why I should be impressed.

[Pelado]

A desperate man trying to desperately raise the profile of his dying conference. He mentioned Texas in the context of BYU trying to beg and plead for respect for his teams that either beat/loss to BYU. He mentioned Baylor to try to bed and plead for respect for UCF. If BYU had beat Utah, he would have mentioned them, but we know that isn't happening even if they did play.

So a Commissioner of a dying league mentions BYU while also complaining about his teams not being "power conference" teams. Not sure why I should be impressed.

I don't think he's that desperate.

[SeattleUte]

Lol Seattle.

http://www.cougarboard.com/cougarspo...kb&season=2014

A number of very good games.

cougarboard is your source? I'm not clicking that link. I don't want cougarboard fleas.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I think a change in this thread title is necessary.

Larry Krystkowiak - took a dumpster fire of a program and has got them in the top 25. He got a win over a top 10 Wichita State team. He has done this at a program that is harder to recruit to than UNLV. The Utes have obviously improved over where they were when he took the job.

Dave Rice - the UNLV team has regressed. So far this year the Rebels have struggled to get wins over the likes of Morehead State (60-59) and Sam Houston State (59-57). The 2 decent teams they have played this year have both blown out UNLV: Stanford (60-89) and ASU (55-77). To Dave Rice's credit, he was able to get his team to score 5 more points against ASU than Chicago State. Great recruiter, but his teams are consistently under performing.

So Krystkowiak has handled a horrible situation and made it better. Dave Rice was given a team in great shape and has made it worse. Like I said, I think we need to change the title to this thread.

[Commando]

So maybe Dave Rice makes a better assistant coach than krystokiack?

[smokymountainrain]

I think a change in this thread title is necessary.

Larry Krystkowiak - took a dumpster fire of a program and has got them in the top 25. He got a win over a top 10 Wichita State team. He has done this at a program that is harder to recruit to than UNLV. The Utes have obviously improved over where they were when he took the job.

Dave Rice - the UNLV team has regressed. So far this year the Rebels have struggled to get wins over the likes of Morehead State (60-59) and Sam Houston State (59-57). The 2 decent teams they have played this year have both blown out UNLV: Stanford (60-89) and ASU (55-77). To Dave Rice's credit, he was able to get his team to score 5 more points against ASU than Chicago State. Great recruiter, but his teams are consistently under performing.

So Krystkowiak has handled a horrible situation and made it better. Dave Rice was given a team in great shape and has made it worse. Like I said, I think we need to change the title to this thread.

Perhaps he should at least get his team to the Dance before we take such a drastic step.

[SCcoug]

Perhaps he should at least get his team to the Dance before we take such a drastic step.

Yeah don't drop the ball too soon MP.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Yeah don't drop the ball too soon MP.

I'm not recreating Kaelin Clay's Calamity with this one. I'm not sure why we need to see Krsytkowiak make the NCAA tournament prior to declaring him the better coach at this point. I'm not declaring that he is a good coach, only that he is better than Rice.

Krystkowiak has improved the Utah program. Rice has made UNLV worse. With a tougher job, Krystkowiak has done a better job than Rice.

[TripletDaddy]

it is kind of hard to not improve the Utah program given where he started. basically if you manage to win about 12-15 games, you have drastically improved the program. That is something, though, I suppose.

[MartyFunkhouser]

it is kind of hard to not improve the Utah program given where he started. basically if you manage to win about 12-15 games, you have drastically improved the program. That is something, though, I suppose.

Its also not that hard to keep UNLV as a tournament team with the talent Lon Kruger left behind and the ease of recruiting to Las Vegas, but Rice hasn't been able to do that.

[TripletDaddy]

Its also not that hard to keep UNLV as a tournament team with the talent Lon Kruger left behind and the ease of recruiting to Las Vegas, but Rice hasn't been able to do that.

You just said a few minutes ago that making the tournament is not a requisite data point in determining coaching efficacy. So why are you now employing a lack of tournament appearances as a negative?

[Blueintheface]

Its also not that hard to keep UNLV as a tournament team with the talent Lon Kruger left behind and the ease of recruiting to Las Vegas, but Rice hasn't been able to do that.

Signed, SDSU football.

[falafel]

Its also not that hard to keep UNLV as a tournament team with the talent Lon Kruger left behind and the ease of recruiting to Las Vegas, but Rice hasn't been able to do that.

Why is it so easy to recruit to Las Vegas? It sure isn't easy to recruit football players to play here.

[MartyFunkhouser]

You just said a few minutes ago that making the tournament is not a requisite data point in determining coaching efficacy. So why are you now employing a lack of tournament appearances as a negative?

I comparing the programs when the respective coaches took over and the trajectory they have taken since those coaches took over. Krystko took over a program that had 2 horrible coaches, including Boylen who was a special level of bad. He also had Boylen actively sabotage his program on the way out. The program has improved.

Rice took over a program that was in great shape. He has taken them from a perennial NCAA tournament team to missing the dance last year and probably missing it again this year.

I'm not saying getting the tournament isn't a data point to look at, I'm saying we already have enough evidence with the direction of the 2 programs to state that Krystko is the better coach.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Why is it so easy to recruit to Las Vegas? It sure isn't easy to recruit football players to play here.

When was the last time a coach had a difficult time recruiting basketball players to Vegas?