2011-2012 BYU Basketball Thread

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  • falafel
    loves to talk on things
    • Mar 2009
    • 37966

    #121
    Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
    What I've heard doesn't make sense so I'm discounting it. I just dont' see how adding another young coach makes sense. I think they are more likely to hire Roger Reid and Roger is more likely to come back than the nonsense I have heard.
    KD, was Pope the name you were hearing that didn't make any sense?
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

    Dig your own grave, and save!

    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • falafel
      loves to talk on things
      • Mar 2009
      • 37966

      #122
      Deeps Shades of Blue is saying that Nashif was given a bigger role in running the offense this last year based on the belief that Rice would be gone and that Nashif would eventually take over Rice's role. Anyone heard that?
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      Dig your own grave, and save!

      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • WashingtonCoug
        Monsters like me
        • Jan 2009
        • 1489

        #123
        Originally posted by falafel View Post
        Deeps Shades of Blue is saying that Nashif was given a bigger role in running the offense this last year based on the belief that Rice would be gone and that Nashif would eventually take over Rice's role. Anyone heard that?
        Nashif has been groomed for some time to be Rice's replacement.
        "To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
        —Abraham Maslow

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        • Goatnapper'96
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 10924

          #124
          Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View Post
          Nashif has been groomed for some time to be Rice's replacement.
          I predict it will go better than his replacing Luis Lemes!
          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
          -General George S. Patton

          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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          • Goatnapper'96
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10924

            #125
            Andy Katz on BYU next year:



            He even gives a shout out to rising junior Brock Zylstra. That means that Brock's two shout outs have come from K-Dog and Andy Katz.

            For those on the inside is BYU looking to pick up any transfers leaving higher profile schools? Here is my scholarship count:

            1.) Martineau
            2.) Carlino
            3.) Winder
            4.) Harrison
            5.) Abouo
            6.) Zylstra
            7.) Rogers
            8.) Collinsworth
            9.) Hartsock
            10.) Davies
            11.) Harward
            12.) Austin

            That leaves one more scholie open. They clearly ignored my advice to land a JC PG. So I really have no idea what the coaching staff is pursuing. My guess is they will either try to pick up a high profile transfer or just eat it. What I hate about eating it is they inevitably award it to a walk on and then the walk on becomes permanent.

            WRT next year's recruiting, BYU loses Abouo and Hartsock and then has the open scholie to fill if it is still open. BYU is recruiting Calean Robinson, a non-LDS HS PG out of the Phoenix area, J-LOVE and Jeff Chatman's son. I will go out on a limb and proclaim Jeff Chatman's son a lock, I think the Y has a real good shot with Jordan Loveridge as he is from Utah and I think his skillset and BYU's style of play are really a good fit for each other. Time will tell. I have no clue on Calean Robinson. Rose, from experience, is pretty focussed, by that I mean he doesn't seem to cast a very wide net, with his recruiting efforts. My guess is these are the only 3 BYU is going after real hard this year. I don't know what the backup plans are should they not land both Calean Robinson and J-LOVE. Last year they did not seem to have a backup plan for the heir apparant to Jimmer who picked Oregon over BYU, and then it became obvious Rose pays his tithing as Matty Carlino fell into his lap. Regardless, I understand Jordan Chatman is a sign and send so if BYU can land Calean and J-LOVE they will join Tyler Haws to fill out the roster for 2012-2013.
            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
            -General George S. Patton

            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
            -DOCTOR Wuap

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            • Blueintheface
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 15382

              #126
              At least coach Rose is honest:

              This will be a transition year for us."
              I agree with Katz that Harrison will be the sleeper in this group. The kid will impress and should help the team avoid a big slide.
              "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

              "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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              • Goatnapper'96
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 10924

                #127
                Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                At least coach Rose is honest:



                I agree with Katz that Harrison will be the sleeper in this group. The kid will impress and should help the team avoid a big slide.
                I agree with Rose as well. I think a really good goal is to make the NCAA tourney, but I think we will be real young so it is going to be tough.

                Saying that, I think Rose really has a good thing going and that BYU will have some really good years after Haws comes home and this core group gets experience and familiarity with playing with each other.
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                -DOCTOR Wuap

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                • Blueintheface
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 15382

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                  I agree with Rose as well. I think a really good goal is to make the NCAA tourney, but I think we will be real young so it is going to be tough.

                  Saying that, I think Rose really has a good thing going and that BYU will have some really good years after Haws comes home and this core group gets experience and familiarity with playing with each other.
                  Yep, Haws will make that 2013 team go. On a depressing side note, his midrange game was a large reason BYU didn't earn a trip to Houston this year. Damn the missionary program!
                  "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                  "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                  • KillerDog
                    a.k.a. K-dog
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4196

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                    Andy Katz on BYU next year:



                    He even gives a shout out to rising junior Brock Zylstra. That means that Brock's two shout outs have come from K-Dog and Andy Katz.
                    Considering that Katz and I are the only ones to ever demonstrate Zylstra love, a thinking man would read into it that we get our information regarding Zylstra and his potential impact from the same source. I just wish he didn't play like ass last year when all I kept hearing was how well he was doing and how much he had developed.

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                    • frank ryan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 12345

                      #130
                      are they just sitting on a scholarship? don't they get 13?

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                      • cougjunkie
                        *Banned*
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 23223

                        #131
                        Rumor has it Josh Sharp has asked out of his scholarship agreement with the Utes. Utah has granted his release however they put a stipulation saying he was not allowed to transfer in state or in the Pac-12. His family is appealing this as it sounds like he would like to attend BYU.

                        I was not real high on him coming out of high school he is a lean 6'7 wing. Good athlete but the jury is still out on whether or not he is a D-1 player.
                        *Banned*

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                        • Goatnapper'96
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10924

                          #132
                          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                          Rumor has it Josh Sharp has asked out of his scholarship agreement with the Utes. Utah has granted his release however they put a stipulation saying he was not allowed to transfer in state or in the Pac-12. His family is appealing this as it sounds like he would like to attend BYU.

                          I was not real high on him coming out of high school he is a lean 6'7 wing. Good athlete but the jury is still out on whether or not he is a D-1 player.
                          I think he is a role playing shooter. But if he could put on some weight and strength so he could defend inside he could play the 4 in BYU's system. If he is serious he could go to a JC for one year and then transfer to BYU. Now that I think about it, unless he signed something with Utah recently I don't think they can get in his way as I thought he was a walk on before his mission. In any case I doubt many schools will give him a scholie without him going to a JC for a year and proving himself capable. I don't see him as something vitally important to BYU.
                          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                          -General George S. Patton

                          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                          -DOCTOR Wuap

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                          • kccougar
                            9262
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 7020

                            #133
                            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                            Rumor has it Josh Sharp has asked out of his scholarship agreement with the Utes. Utah has granted his release however they put a stipulation saying he was not allowed to transfer in state or in the Pac-12. His family is appealing this as it sounds like he would like to attend BYU.

                            I was not real high on him coming out of high school he is a lean 6'7 wing. Good athlete but the jury is still out on whether or not he is a D-1 player.
                            I heard the same.
                            "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                            • BGRTHNUMEGO
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 3670

                              #134
                              Wrubell says Sharp to BYU...stronger statement than previous rumors that he is just looking to transfer and considering BYU:

                              I am hearing from people unaffiliated with BYU that Josh Sharp plans to transfer from Utah to BYU once he complete his LDS mission in Texas.

                              Sharp is a Lone Peak HS product who signed with Utah and red-shirted with the Utes prior to his mission. Last week, the school released a statement in which it stated that the university "must allow other schools to contact men's basketball player Josh Sharp due to a technicality with his National Letter of Intent. Sharp, who redshirted as a freshman at Utah in 2008-09 before leaving on an LDS church mission, signed an NLI with the Utes on Nov. 14, 2007. The NLI must be accompanied with a financial aid agreement for it to be valid. Sharp did sign a financial aid agreement, but not simultaneously with his NLI."

                              Long story short, Sharp can choose to transfer to another Division I institution and play immediately. Word is he will choose to enroll at BYU and play for Dave Rose's Cougars this fall.

                              Listed at 6'7" prior to his mission, Sharp may now be closer to 6'8" on a 180-190 pound frame. An athletic wing on a loaded Lone Peak squad, Sharp is not known as a slasher a la Kyle Collinsworth but a hustler a la Logan Magnusson, yet with hops that will have him playing above the rim.

                              Reports I get are that the former Utah staff was surprised at just how good Sharp was once they got a couple of months into his freshman season, but by then the decision had been made to redshirt Sharp. Jim Boylen is said to believe that Sharp could have been a three-year starter for the Utes. If and when he ends up in Provo, he is sure to help the Cougars and keep the Lone Peak pipeline flowing.
                              Someone else had said Sharp was open to walking on his first year back if that is what it took to go to the school of his choice. Since he used his redshirt that would leave 3 years of eligibility on scholarship if he does transfer in to the program.

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                              • smokymountainrain
                                Impressive Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 22593

                                #135
                                Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
                                Wrubell says Sharp to BYU...stronger statement than previous rumors that he is just looking to transfer and considering BYU:



                                Someone else had said Sharp was open to walking on his first year back if that is what it took to go to the school of his choice. Since he used his redshirt that would leave 3 years of eligibility on scholarship if he does transfer in to the program.
                                Sharp has better athleticism than Magnusson, but to say he'll play above the rim is a little strong, IMO.
                                I'm like LeBron James.
                                -mpfunk

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