2011-2012 BYU Basketball Thread

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  • pellegrino
    miserere me
    • Jan 2009
    • 12100

    #181
    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
    I don't think the schedule is terrible. We have likely 3 tourney teams in Utah State, Wisconsin, and VA Tech. It's too bad Utah and Oregon suck. Baylor is middle of the Big 12.
    looking at this, I think it's a pretty kick ass non conference schedule. I look at a lot of ACC schools and their non conference schedule and theirs aren't much better, imo. Check out UNC's non conference schedule last year.

    11/05/10 vs. Barton (exhibition) Chapel Hill, N.C.
    11/12/10 vs. Lipscomb Chapel Hill, N.C.
    11/18/10 vs. Hofstra San Juan, PR
    11/19/10 vs. Minnesota San Juan, PR
    11/21/10 vs. Vanderbilt San Juan, PR
    11/23/10 vs. UNC Asheville Chapel Hill, N.C.
    11/28/10 vs. College of Charleston Chapel Hill, N.C.
    11/30/10 at Illinois (ACC/Big Ten Challenge) Champaign, Ill.
    12/04/10 vs. Kentucky Chapel Hill, N.C.
    12/08/10 at Evansville Evansville, Ind.
    12/11/10 vs. Long Beach State Chapel Hill, N.C.
    12/18/10 vs. Texas Greensboro, N.C.
    12/21/10 vs. William & Mary Chapel Hill, N.C.
    12/28/10 vs. Rutgers New York, N.Y.
    01/02/11 vs. Saint Francis (PA) Chapel Hill, N.C.
    So I'd say that that's a better schedule, but only by a game or two. Given the proximity of their opponents and the history of UNC's program, scheduling becomes that much easier, but their average non conference schedule isn't that much better than ours.
    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
    Alessandro Manzoni

    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

    pelagius

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    • Tim
      Not Banned
      • Nov 2008
      • 4390

      #182
      Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
      There's a Hampton Inn there. Also a Holiday Inn Express. Of course, Tim will want to go top class all the way.
      Yo, I'm going 3-star on our November trip to California. Gotta be budget-conscious *sometimes*!
      Visca Catalunya Lliure

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      • Blueintheface
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 15382

        #183
        I agree that the non-conference isn't horrible but let's not forget what conference we now play in. IMO it's a little too soft for a WCC team. On a positive note, it should offer a nice soft landing post-Jimmer.
        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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        • myboynoah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 21719

          #184
          Originally posted by Tim View Post
          Yo, I'm going 3-star on our November trip to California. Gotta be budget-conscious *sometimes*!
          Oh how the mighty has fallen. Whatever will you do without that turndown service?
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • San Juan Sun
            Kicked to the curb
            • Dec 2009
            • 9214

            #185
            I'm pumped. Two back-to-back Chicago trips for the Cougs. Me and Little SJS will have a ball.
            "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

            - Ty Cobb

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            • Surfah
              Where's Wallace?
              • Nov 2008
              • 33726

              #186
              Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
              On a positive note, it should offer a nice soft landing post-Jimmer.
              I think that was quite deliberate.
              "Nobody listens to Turtle."
              -Turtle
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              • Clark Addison
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 10303

                #187
                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                I think that was quite deliberate.
                I hope so. I don't mind it next year, but if our OOC schedule is like this every year, we will have a hard time getting good seeds. It doesn't need to be drastically different; replace BYU-H and CS-San Marcos with a couple of solid teams and you've got a decent schedule.

                On the plus side, I will definitely be in Blacksburg!

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                • Goatnapper'96
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10924

                  #188
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  I think that was quite deliberate.
                  I was actually surprised that Rose agreed to playing Oregon before Carlino gets elgible, my guess is that game will be nationally televised and it would have benefitted BYU much more to have put that off for two more weeks. Utah State, Oregon and likely Wisconsin all before Carlino gets elgible and then Baylor, Va Tech, Gonzaga x 2 (3?) and St Mary's x 2 (3?) all after.

                  I agree that the schedule is not real difficult this upcoming season because of how young BYU will be , especially on the perimeter. I think BYU is likely to lose at least 4 OOC games next year out off the following: @ USU, Nevada in Chicago, Bradley or Wisconsin in Chicago, Oregon in SLC and @ Va Tech and perhaps one more. If BYU can get 23 regular season victories, either 10 OOC and 13 WCC or 11 OOC and 12 WCC, beat Gonzaga at home and get to the WCC tourney final they would finish the year with 25 wins and an RPI likely between 35-40. Given their recent history and NCAA tourney success tmy guess is they would be seeded anywhere from 9-11.

                  This is a rebuilding year for BYU and if they can accomplish the above it would be huge for BYU and cement my opinion that Dave Rose is one of the top college basketball coaches out there. Further, it would put BYU on a trajectory for some really good years the following 3 seasons. To be blunt I am not sure I am expecting that this year. But it would be spectacular if Rose could squeeze an NCAA tourney bid out this year.
                  Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                  -General George S. Patton

                  I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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                  • kccougar
                    9262
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 7020

                    #189
                    I wish I could make it to Blacksburg. Funny that I never attended a men's basketball game while I was there (they sucked). I did attend a couple women's games - I can't remember why.
                    "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                    • New Mexican Disaster
                      Suomalainen
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 4549

                      #190
                      We better win the conference or there may not be an at large coming.

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                      • smokymountainrain
                        Impressive Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 22593

                        #191
                        25-5 gets them in regardless.
                        I'm like LeBron James.
                        -mpfunk

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                        • Goatnapper'96
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10924

                          #192
                          Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                          25-5 gets them in regardless.
                          I agree. Well, I think 25 regular season wins and getting to the WCC final would get BYU in.
                          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                          -General George S. Patton

                          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                          -DOCTOR Wuap

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                          • frank ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12346

                            #193
                            so does Josh Sharp fill the final scholly? will he get to go overseas with the team? Is Rose going to have a walk-on on the roster this year? He didn't last year. I really wouldnt mind seeing Zylstra go back to walk-on status and grabbing a juco point guard to help feel the void until Carlino becomes eligible.

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                            • smokymountainrain
                              Impressive Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22593

                              #194
                              Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                              I agree. Well, I think 25 regular season wins and getting to the WCC final would get BYU in.
                              And anything less than that, they don't deserve to get in anyway. That said, if they do have a subpar 17 to 23 win regular season, it will be a lot easier to pull off an upset or two and win the automatic bid in the WCC than it would have been in the MWC or say in a BCS conference such as the PAC.

                              This is the reason the WCC move doesn't bother me much - the college basketball playoff is the great equalizer. Speaking of success in college basketball, the Dance is everything and everybody has an equal shot to get there.
                              I'm like LeBron James.
                              -mpfunk

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                              • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                                Time to camp
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26082

                                #195
                                Originally posted by kccougar View Post
                                I did attend a couple women's games - I can't remember why.
                                Were you experimenting with your sexuality?
                                Get confident, stupid
                                -landpoke

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