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  • Jarid in Cedar
    CS Institutional Memory
    • Jun 2009
    • 13234

    #31
    3 stats:

    Assists: 7
    Turnovers: 16
    3pt shooting: 2-15

    :igiveup:
    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

    "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

    "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

    -Rick Majerus

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    • Jarid in Cedar
      CS Institutional Memory
      • Jun 2009
      • 13234

      #32
      more fun.

      3 guards(Hines, Watkins, Kupets) combined stats:

      12 pts, 4-21 fga, 0-9 3pta, 4 reb, 3 assists, 9 to, in a combined 71 minutes(aka 35.2% of the total availiable minutes)

      :swear: :anger::rant: :igiveup:
      Last edited by Jarid in Cedar; 12-25-2010, 10:30 PM.
      "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

      "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

      "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

      -Rick Majerus

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      • MartyFunkhouser
        Disciple of RNGesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 18736

        #33
        Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
        3 stats:

        Assists: 7
        Turnovers: 16
        3pt shooting: 2-15

        :igiveup:
        Proof Boylen can't coach.
        As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
        --Kendrick Lamar

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        • MartyFunkhouser
          Disciple of RNGesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 18736

          #34
          Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
          more fun.

          3 guards(Hines, Watkins, Kupets) combined stats:

          12 pts, 4-21 fga, 0-9 3pta, 4 reb, 3 assists, 9 to, in a combined 71 minutes(aka 35.2% of the total availiable minutes)

          :swear::willynilly::igiveup:
          Proof Boylen can't recruit.

          I think your 2 posts leads us to why this thread is now necessary.

          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
          --Kendrick Lamar

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          • cougjunkie
            *Banned*
            • Nov 2008
            • 23223

            #35
            Who is the better coach Giac or Boylen?

            Also when does Chris Hill take some heat for striking out twice in a row?
            *Banned*

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              #36
              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
              Who is the better coach Giac or Boylen?

              Also when does Chris Hill take some heat for striking out twice in a row?
              The Red Blazer.

              The good news: Utah will have a new coach going into PAC-12 play.

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              • MartyFunkhouser
                Disciple of RNGesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 18736

                #37
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                Who is the better coach Giac or Boylen?

                Also when does Chris Hill take some heat for striking out twice in a row?
                Boylen and I am not sure it is even close. Giac was that bad.


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                As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
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                • LA Ute
                  Receiver of Memory
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19512

                  #38
                  I think junkie should put some heat on Chris Hill. That expression of concern coming from a diehard BYU fan would really send a message. Junkie, be sure to cc President Young and the entire Board of Trustees. And thank you for caring!
                  Last edited by LA Ute; 12-26-2010, 12:26 PM.
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                  ― W.H. Auden


                  "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
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                  • Top Ute
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 2194

                    #39
                    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                    Boylen and I am not sure it is even close. Giac was that bad.


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                    Boylen is giving Giacoletti a good run for his money in this regard. We just lost to a team that could only claim wins against Division III schools. And at least Giacoletti could bring in players with talent -- I'll take Ray's top 5 HS signees vs. Boylen's top 5 HS signees and my side will win by 20.

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                    • Katy Lied
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 9435

                      #40
                      Always thought going pac12 would buy Boylen a fresh start, but that last game was an abomination. What is going on? Jettison him faster than garbage off a listing cruise ship already.

                      What's the use going to the mighty Pac 12 when you cannot beat the dregs of the WCC?

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                      • il Padrino Ute
                        Junior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19161

                        #41
                        As much as I love Boylen as a person, it's obvious that he doesn't have what it takes to be a college head coach. I don't think it would be a good idea to fire him now, but Utah needs to let him go at the end of the season.

                        The only positive in this entire mess that is Utah basketball is that the Utes will be in the PAC12 next season, as it will be a better opportunity for Dr. Hill to hire somebody. He won't get a name coach, but there will be someone out there who would be willing to come to SLC knowing that he'll be coaching in one of the big-name conferences. It's still easier to recruit to one of the big six conferences than to the MWC, even if it's to a lousy team.

                        I'll never think that Boylen is as bad as Giacoletti ever was because Boylen at least tries to coach. Giac just sat on his hands and wondered what the hell to do.
                        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                        "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                        • Katy Lied
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 9435

                          #42
                          Agreed. Giac was worse than Boylen. But didn't Giac take your boys to the sweet 16?

                          Too bad Boylen cannot last through the first year of Pac12. That would give Hill a lot more options.

                          I like Randy Rahe too, can't figure out why utes don't like him.

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                          • il Padrino Ute
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19161

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                            Agreed. Giac was worse than Boylen. But didn't Giac take your boys to the sweet 16?

                            Too bad Boylen cannot last through the first year of Pac12. That would give Hill a lot more options.

                            I like Randy Rahe too, can't figure out why utes don't like him.
                            Andrew Bogut took the Utes to the Sweet 16. The consensus POY can make any coach look good.

                            As for Rahe, I'm wondering if that he was with Majerus is the problem. Majerus may have destroyed any chance that any of his assistants ever find their way back to Utah.
                            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                            • MartyFunkhouser
                              Disciple of RNGesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 18736

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                              Agreed. Giac was worse than Boylen. But didn't Giac take your boys to the sweet 16?

                              Too bad Boylen cannot last through the first year of Pac12. That would give Hill a lot more options.

                              I like Randy Rahe too, can't figure out why utes don't like him.
                              Giacoletti had the benefit of inheriting a team that was coached by Rick Majerus the previous year. The players hadn't forgotten all the things that Majerus had taught them and it showed in the way they played. It masked Giacoletti's horrible coaching. It also helped that we had the best player in college hoops.
                              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                              --Kendrick Lamar

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                              • SeattleUte
                                Faith crisis consultant
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 20837

                                #45
                                It's not acceptable that Boylen, after 4 years, is still building the program around JUCOs. It's not just that he isn't winning according to Utah's tradition and resultant expectations. It's that he's not building a program. That's why Giacoletti got the axe. The program wasn't going anywhere. Giacoletti had one very good year with Majerus' leavings, and then was floundering with all these foreigners and JUCOs. Now that Utah is in the Pac 12 it should be easier to recruit there. Even I could tell that De maria and Kupets were likely busts. De Maria was declined by Wyoming.

                                Last year's early offseason debacle highlights the problem. He has not managed and built a program.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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