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[ERCougar]

Oh brother. I'm not dissing the poor.

Got commando rolling on the floor though. You're welcome.

[TripletDaddy]

Oh brother. I'm not dissing the poor.

Got commando rolling on the floor though. You're welcome.

maybe explain why you laught at that? it actually sounds like that is exactly what you are doing...laughing at poor people that needed financial aid to go to an expensive school.

[ERCougar]

maybe explain why you laught at that? it actually sounds like that is exactly what you are doing...laughing at poor people that needed financial aid to go to an expensive school.

No, I'm chuckling at it because 1) it's likely the typical exaggeration that goes on with these things about the super genius friend they have and they didn't really get a full scholarship or 2) if they had, it wouldn't have had anything to do with scholastic aptitude.

Not really that funny, I guess.

[BlueK]

No, I'm chuckling at it because 1) it's likely the typical exaggeration that goes on with these things about the super genius friend they have and they didn't really get a full scholarship or 2) if they had, it wouldn't have had anything to do with scholastic aptitude.

Not really that funny, I guess.

Getting into an Ivy League school as a poor person has everything to do with scholastic aptitude because they can't buy their way in with a nice donation from a rich relative.

[old_gregg]

Getting into an Ivy League school as a poor person has everything to do with scholastic aptitude because they can't buy their way in with a nice donation from a rich relative.

this is just something dumb people tell themselves when they underachieve. in reality it happens nowhere near as frequently as people think.

[jay santos]

I have a casual acquaintance whose daughter went to Harvard and had full tuition paid for, or maybe it was 75%. I'm sure he makes in the $100K range. I think he said Harvard's endowment was so high that nearly all students get scholarship and most getting full tuition paid for. That sounds wrong as I type it, so I guess I should shut up and you all should ignore me.

[jay santos]

Come to think of it, this might be just a line poor people use when their kids get full ride to Harvard, so people don't immediately know how poor they are.

[old_gregg]

i think that's right actually. the harvard endowment is enormous.

[falafel]

Come to think of it, this might be just a line poor people use when their kids get full ride to Harvard, so people don't immediately know how poor they are.

Or how rich they are. "No, we aren't paying this out of pocket. Harvard is picking up most of it."

[BlueK]

this is just something dumb people tell themselves when they underachieve. in reality it happens nowhere near as frequently as people think.

I didn't say it happened frequently. I said a poor person doesn't have that option.

But it's funny how this has changed from a basketball recruiting discussion to something about getting education paid for just because I commented that Harvard made more sense to me for Frank Jackson than Stanford.

[Donuthole]

I have a casual acquaintance whose daughter went to Harvard and had full tuition paid for, or maybe it was 75%. I'm sure he makes in the $100K range. I think he said Harvard's endowment was so high that nearly all students get scholarship and most getting full tuition paid for. That sounds wrong as I type it, so I guess I should shut up and you all should ignore me.

i think that's right actually. the harvard endowment is enormous.

This was super hard to find, but I did the legwork so now you can both know:

The new policy has three major components:

• The “Zero to 10 Percent Standard”: Harvard’s new financial aid policy dramatically reduces the amount families with incomes below $180,000 will be expected to pay. Families with incomes above $120,000 and below $180,000 and with assets typical for these income levels will be asked to pay 10 percent of their incomes. For those with incomes below $120,000, the family contribution percentage will decline steadily from 10 percent, reaching zero for those with incomes at $60,000 and below. For example, a typical family making $120,000 will be asked to pay approximately $12,000 for a child to attend Harvard College, compared with more than $19,000 under existing student aid policies. For a typical family with $180,000 of income, the payment would be approximately $18,000, compared with more than $30,000 today. The new standard reduces the cost to families by one-third to one-half, making the price of a Harvard education for students on financial aid comparable to the cost of in-state tuition and fees at the nation’s leading public universities. The new initiative also establishes a standard that students and their families can easily understand.
• No Loans: In calculating the financial aid packages offered to undergraduates, Harvard will not expect students to take out loans. Loan funds will be replaced by increased grants from the University. Of course, students will be permitted to cover their reduced cost of attendance through loans if they wish.
• Eliminate Home Equity from Consideration: Under the new policy, Harvard will no longer consider home equity in determining a family’s ability to pay for college. This will reduce the price by an average of $4,000 per year for affected families as compared with current practice.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/stor...me-initiative/

[BlueK]

Now I'm getting tired of the whole Frank Jackson circus. I hope he makes a decision soon even it isn't BYU. Time to move on. It just seems to me that perhaps his dad especially isn't ready to stop getting "wined and dined" by the likes of Coach K.

[imanihonjin]

Now I'm getting tired of the whole Frank Jackson circus. I hope he makes a decision soon even it isn't BYU. Time to move on.

It most definitely isn't going to be BYU. Good luck to him....as time passes his dad looks to more and more like Porter Gustin's dad and I think it best to not have that element around the program.

[jay santos]

It most definitely isn't going to be BYU. Good luck to him....as time passes his dad looks to more and more like Porter Gustin's dad and I think it best to not have that element around the program.

They have 17 year old sons with NPV of $20M+ and are in over their heads in a world where everyone's making a grab for that value. How would you act as a dad in that role?

[byu71]

They have 17 year old sons with NPV of $20M+ and are in over their heads in a world where everyone's making a grab for that value. How would you act as a dad in that role?

Good point. Put yourself in their shoes if that is even possible imagining.

I would be very happy if my kid grew up and automatically lived honor code standards. However, if he was as talented as Jackson, I would fear him going to BYU slipping up and going through crap like Davies and Unga had to.

Opporunities are better elsewhere without the potential downside.