To take a break here and discuss Utah hoops...

[SeattleUte]

Right now BYU can win in the tournament. That is not something Majerus faced beyond his first 3 years at Utah. UNM is on the verge of their best year ever and poised to continue to win and get national attention. Utah got snubbed for the CBI. To an outsider who has 4 years to get that rectified Utah is not as attractive as it was 4 years ago when nobody from the MWC could win in the dance other than Utah.

lol so can Ohio U. "right now." Let's revisit this on Sunday.

Right now ought to be a BYU slogan. I've never seen a people so in love with right now. It's like you all go to the temple to get that Men in Black brain zapping done every day.

[Goatnapper'96]

If anything Utah's basketball tradition is greater than its football tradition. I guess you are stuck on snapshots in time. This isn't like Duke at all. Do you suppose that Washington's basketaball program is a more desireable job than its football? The main problem with Utah is 1) its basketball program is struggling THIS YEAR (so is LSU, UCLA, North Carolina, Texas, Connecticut, Oklahoma), 2) The LDS factor. The LDS factor is present in football and basketball. If anything, Utah's football job is going to be really undesireable after Urban and Whit--two legends!

Utah hasn't struggled "RIGHT NOW or THIS YEAR" Utah has sucked 4 out of 5 years and had 3 years as good as BYU's RIGHT NOW in the past 10 with only one of those being without Majerus and with the best player to ever wear a Ute uniform.

Right now, Utah is not a real attractive destination even if Karl Bankowski hit a baseline jumper in 1977 to beat North Carolina or somebodyoranother!

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

: If anything, Utah's football job is going to be really undesireable after Urban and Whit--two legends!

It has nothing to do with a snap shot in time. It has to do with Urban and Whit and continuing success. Utah is now nearing a decade of being a top 25 football team, that always wins in the post season.

The basketball team is nearing a decade since it was relevant.

Tradition and history only work as a selling point when someone is winning. What did Notre Dame (arguably the greatest history in any college sport) do for Charlie Weis? Pete Carroll made USC win and that made their history relevant, remember how nobody wanted the USC job in 2000?

The history and tradition is great, if it has a good snap shot to go with it. Otherwise it is nothing more than a story that most recruiting age kids aren't all that interested in.

[Goatnapper'96]

lol so can Ohio U. "right now." Let's revisit this on Sunday.

Right now ought to be a BYU slogan. I've never seen a people so in love with right now. It's like you all go to the temple to get that Men in Black brain zapping done every day.

Everybody knows BYU beat a respectable NCAA power, who did Ohio U beat?

[SeattleUte]

Utah hasn't struggled "RIGHT NOW or THIS YEAR" Utah has sucked 4 out of 5 years and had 3 years as good as BYU's RIGHT NOW in the past 10 with only one of those being without Majerus and with the best player to ever wear a Ute uniform.

Right now, Utah is not a real attractive destination even if Karl Bankowski hit a baseline jumper in 1977 to beat North Carolina or somebodyoranother!

Utah won the conference outright last year. Something BYU failed to do this year. BYU failed twice. If that big FL power forward hits that jumper that he was money on twice earlier just before the buzzer this year you'd be knocked completely out of your high saddle. First round (double overtime) wins against 10th seeded teams are a dime a dozen.

[TripletDaddy]

whit is a legend? that is pretty impressive.

[SeattleUte]

I am not so convinced the Utah football job is that great nationally, but I do think it is valued by Kyle Whittingham so it really doesn't matter. The hoops job, today, doesn't look real attractive. Sorry, just being honest! But the reasons are obvious:

1.) Lack of good players. Trust me, Marshall Henderson is a role player. No real natural recruiting base. Must be really competent at finding diamonds in the rough.

2.) Fan support sucks.

3.) Fans have unreasonable expectations.

4.) Good conference foes that pose a challenge.

5.) Being compared to a great football HC. Not to mention a certain fat man.

6.) Next to BYU, the fanbase has the highest percentage of assholes.

These (except for 6) are problems a good coach is hired to fix. They do not make a program bad. It's as if you were saying a heart surgeon is a bad job because heart surgery is hard. It's part of the job and why the big bucks are paid.

[SeattleUte]

It has nothing to do with a snap shot in time. It has to do with Urban and Whit and continuing success. Utah is now nearing a decade of being a top 25 football team, that always wins in the post season.

The basketball team is nearing a decade since it was relevant.

Tradition and history only work as a selling point when someone is winning. What did Notre Dame (arguably the greatest history in any college sport) do for Charlie Weis? Pete Carroll made USC win and that made their history relevant, remember how nobody wanted the USC job in 2000?

The history and tradition is great, if it has a good snap shot to go with it. Otherwise it is nothing more than a story that most recruiting age kids aren't all that interested in.

in 2005 it went to the Sweet 16 and had the best player in the nation. Tell me again about that sweet Oregon BCS moment in 2001.

[SeattleUte]

whit is a legend? that is pretty impressive.

Not yet, he's still there. But he has done enough to ascend to that status when he's gone.

I've noticed something about you. Your avatars change your personality. When I read your posts it's as if the avatar were talking.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

in 2005 it went to the Sweet 16 and had the best player in the nation. Tell me again about that sweet Oregon BCS moment in 2001.

lol, you truly are brilliant. I know you love lols and you deserve a whole page of them for that one.

[Blueintheface]

SU, you do realize the players now in college and even in their last years in high school were eating their boogers when Utah's basketball program was relevant on a national stage, right?

P.S. This is the point where you indicate that BYU's football national championship occurred during the height of apartheid.

[CJF]

It seems one of the two best coaches in Utah history had almost no understanding of things LDS and managed to be ok.

Also seems like the start of his drop was when he ran off the one guy on the staff that was the expert on Utah recruiting and LDS players.

[Goatnapper'96]

Utah won the conference outright last year. Something BYU failed to do this year. BYU failed twice. If that big FL power forward hits that jumper that he was money on twice earlier just before the buzzer this year you'd be knocked completely out of your high saddle. First round (double overtime) wins against 10th seeded teams are a dime a dozen.

To quote the ever sexy Steven Tyler "I'm BACK! I'm back in the saddle uhhhhh-Gi'i'in!"

Dime a dozen are those snubbed for a CBI bid, but yes if Utah has competed against Pepperdine or Seattle you might be a lil' cockier!

[Mr. Crimson]

Also seems like the start of his drop was when he ran off the one guy on the staff that was the expert on Utah recruiting and LDS players.

Or Keith Van Horn and Andre Miller graduating.

[SeattleUte]

Or Keith Van Horn and Andre Miller graduating.

2005 was Majerus' team, really.