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  • Katy Lied
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 9435

    #1

    Declining attendance at UofU Basketball Games

    Brad Rock writes about this problem. Here are the attendance figures:


    1995-96: 14,281

    1996-97: 14,047

    1997-98: 13,818

    1998-99: 13,987

    1999-00: 13,248

    2000-01: 12,236

    2001-02: 11,890

    2002-03: 11,518

    2003-04: 10,901

    2004-05: 10,777

    2005-06: 10,481

    2006-07: 9,522

    2007-08: 9,979

    2008-09: 9,916

    2009-10: 8,486.

    Even the Michigan game pulled less fans than the average last year attendance. Wonder what's up with U Fans.
  • DrumNFeather
    Invisible Swordsman
    • Nov 2008
    • 8854

    #2
    Many of the post-Urban U of U fans were probably not fans or at least attending the school during the Majerus era and as such, they are football fans first. I think that it used to be the reverse, basketball first, football second. Now, football is king and the new fangled fans are going to have to see consistent winning before they return to the HC.
    "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    • BoylenOver
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 9146

      #3
      Majerus stopped recruiting, Utah stopped consistently getting to the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tournament, and the students since 2003 consider us to be a football school.

      My (naive) guess is we get back above 10k this year with conference play.
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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #4
        This "football school" explanation would be believable if the U were selling out their undersized football venue. As it stands, they don't really pack it in there, either.

        I guess I didn't know that the Huntsman Center was so small. How many does it seat? Those average attendance figures are pretty lousy.
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        • Surfah
          Where's Wallace?
          • Nov 2008
          • 33726

          #5
          The U is a commuter school which I believe contributes heavily to the lack of fans.
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          • BoylenOver
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 9146

            #6
            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
            This "football school" explanation would be believable if the U were selling out their undersized football venue. As it stands, they don't really pack it in there, either.

            I guess I didn't know that the Huntsman Center was so small. How many does it seat? Those average attendance figures are pretty lousy.
            We've been at 95% capacity the last three seasons and averaged over a sellout last season.

            The Hunty seats 14,500.
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            "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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            • LA Ute
              Receiver of Memory
              • Nov 2008
              • 19512

              #7
              It's been a problem to some extent for years and years. Even during the Majerus era there were few sellout games. I think it's a combination of factors - commuter campus in winter weather, small population with a number of entertainment alternatives (including the Jazz), and a less-than-compelling product for the last couple of seasons. Anyway, my guess is that attendance will get better with more marquee opponents and a better record. But I don't think it will ever be great.

              TD, the Huntsman seats 16,000 or so. After 40 years it is still consistently ranked as one of the best on-campus college arenas in the USA.
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              • TripletDaddy
                sweet triple
                • Nov 2008
                • 58186

                #8
                Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                We've been at 95% capacity the last three seasons and averaged over a sellout last season.

                The Hunty seats 14,500.
                I this is our answer right here.

                Per these stats, the U wasn't even selling out its games at its basketball zenith....the late 90s. And with general tickets that had a face value of around $10?

                If they can't even sell out games in a season where the team goes to the NCAA championship game, why would the fans pay attention in a year like this year when the U has little no shot at the MWC or a conference bid?

                How is it possible for a D1 program to not be able to attract 15K fans to a home basketball game?
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                • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                  Time to camp
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 26082

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  How is it possible for a D1 program to not be able to attract 15K fans to a home basketball game?
                  Ask USC.
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                  • TripletDaddy
                    sweet triple
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 58186

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                    Ask USC.
                    They have no basketball program there.

                    The U couldn't even bring in 14K when they were running through the NCAA tournament!

                    By U fan's admission, the U was a "basketball school" until only recently with Urban's success followed by Whittingham's success. Some basketball school.
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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      How is it possible for a D1 program to not be able to attract 15K fans to a home basketball game?
                      What we need around here is someone who can actually answer these Big Questions, not just pose them. How many D1 programs with a 15,000 seat arena sell out every game? We must know. I think DDDescartes is the man to tell us.
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • BoylenOver
                        Junior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 9146

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        How is it possible for a D1 program to not be able to attract 15K fans to a home basketball game?
                        You realize, of course, that only 14 teams averaged over 15k last year, right?

                        Only 43 averaged over 10k. (Utah was 45th, BTW)
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                        • UtahDan
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                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14496

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                          You realize, of course, that only 14 teams averaged over 15k last year, right?

                          Only 43 averaged over 10k. (Utah was 45th, BTW)
                          Smack down!

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                          • TripletDaddy
                            sweet triple
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 58186

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                            You realize, of course, that only 14 teams averaged over 15k last year, right?

                            Only 43 averaged over 10k. (Utah was 45th, BTW)
                            All the more indication that the U really never was a basketball school.

                            These aren't my numbers, of course. The attendance figures don't seem to be in dispute by anyone here, although I do question BoylenOver's assertion that the U runs at 95% capacity when I see that average attendance is around 9K over the past few years.

                            The lack of attendance and inability to attract fans at the level of the traditional basketball schools seems to speak for itself. I was just expressing surprise.

                            LA Ute mentioned entertainment alternatives. Are there that many in SLC? A Utah basketball ticket is pretty affordable...it is a cheap ticket.
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                            • il Padrino Ute
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19161

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              I this is our answer right here.

                              Per these stats, the U wasn't even selling out its games at its basketball zenith....the late 90s. And with general tickets that had a face value of around $10?

                              If they can't even sell out games in a season where the team goes to the NCAA championship game, why would the fans pay attention in a year like this year when the U has little no shot at the MWC or a conference bid?

                              How is it possible for a D1 program to not be able to attract 15K fans to a home basketball game?
                              When it comes to basketball in Salt Lake City, the Jazz has been and always will be King. Majerus' best years at the U coincided with the Jazz best years as well. The Final Four appearance was the same year the Jazz were in the Finals for the 2nd time.

                              If I were you, I'd be more concerned about when the Y was going to advance to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament than how many butts are in the seats at the Huntsman Center.
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