Confirmed: Senator Mike Lee is a wanker

[Jeff Lebowski]

Stop harshing my mellow, you friggin' pessimists.

[USUC]

Stop harshing my mellow, you friggin' pessimists.

I'm a pessimist,, I think AJ and Funk are technically cynics.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm a pessimist,, I think AJ and Funk are technically cynics.

Good point.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Stop harshing my mellow, you friggin' pessimists.

As stated above, I'm definitely a cynic. I'm sorry to harsh her mellow, but it is just truth at this point. I'm not even being a cynic on this one, I'm being a realist.

Look no further than Romney's ratings to see what Utah wants from its senators. Lee is exactly what the majority of people in Utah want. He is Utah's senator as long as he wants the job.

[Commando]

As stated above, I'm definitely a cynic. I'm sorry to harsh her mellow, but it is just truth at this point. I'm not even being a cynic on this one, I'm being a realist.

And I'm not naive- I'm just an idealist!!

[Applejack]

As stated above, I'm definitely a cynic. I'm sorry to harsh her mellow, but it is just truth at this point. I'm not even being a cynic on this one, I'm being a realist.

Look no further than Romney's ratings to see what Utah wants from its senators. Lee is exactly what the majority of people in Utah want. He is Utah's senator as long as he wants the job.

Amen.

[Jeff Lebowski]

As stated above, I'm definitely a cynic. I'm sorry to harsh her mellow, but it is just truth at this point. I'm not even being a cynic on this one, I'm being a realist.

Look no further than Romney's ratings to see what Utah wants from its senators. Lee is exactly what the majority of people in Utah want. He is Utah's senator as long as he wants the job.

You are a hopeless cynic and AJ never resists taking a jab at Utah. That is his schtick. And I am being a realist about that.

Having a quasi-republican in the race as an independent and not having a democratic candidate makes this unique. And the demographics of utah are changing.

While Lee does well with Republican and conservative voters, only 39% of Utahns overall approve of his job performance in the Senate, while 41% disapprove, according to a Deseret News/Hinckley Institute poll 808 registered Utah voters conducted May 7-13. Those numbers could make him vulnerable in a general election.

[Applejack]

You are a hopeless cynic and AJ never resists taking a jab at Utah. That is his schtick. And I am being a realist about that.

Having a quasi-republican in the race as an independent and not having a democratic candidate makes this unique. And the demographics of utah are changing.

Hey, I love Utah; but politically it is as weird as Uncle Ted. I remember Bo Gritz getting buzz in the 92 presidential race! Keep dreaming about a non-R winning a statewide election. If Utahns could overwhelmingly vote for Trump in 2020, they will definitely vote for Mike Lee.

I was home in Utah over Christmas and I drove thru SLC (the aves, east bench, 9th&9th) and you'd think Becky Edwards is a shoe-in! She has a lawn sign in every yard. But southern Utah/Utah county will go 75% for Lee; neither Becky nor E. McMuffin has a chance.

And I think Mitt might be in trouble too.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Hey, I love Utah; but politically it is as weird as Uncle Ted. I remember Bo Gritz getting buzz in the 92 presidential race! Keep dreaming about a non-R winning a statewide election. If Utahns could overwhelmingly vote for Trump in 2020, they will definitely vote for Mike Lee.

I was home in Utah over Christmas and I drove thru SLC (the aves, east bench, 9th&9th) and you'd think Becky Edwards is a shoe-in! She has a lawn sign in every yard. But southern Utah/Utah county will go 75% for Lee; neither Becky nor E. McMuffin has a chance.

And I think Mitt might be in trouble too.

I hope and pray that the Mike Lee campaign dismisses hard data as blithely as you do.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I hope and pray that the Mike Lee campaign dismisses hard data as blithely as you do.

Remember the hard data that McMullin had a chance of winning Utah in 2016. Remember the McMullin is gay and has a gay parent robocalls? Remember McMullin getting 21.54% of the vote?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Remember the hard data that McMullin had a chance of winning Utah in 2016. Remember the McMullin is gay and has a gay parent robocalls? Remember McMullin getting 21.54% of the vote?

I don't recall any polls at that time showing the race as close as this.

Do you guys really see these comments as some kind of political acumen? Of course it is tough to unseat an incumbent. Good grief. Nobody is predicting Lee is going to lose. We are just excited for the possibility and the fact that there is some reason for hope.

[Applejack]

I hope and pray that the Mike Lee campaign dismisses hard data as blithely as you do.

I don't think the hard data that you speak of (the share of people that approve of Lee's job performance?) means what you think it means. Political partisanship is a heavy burden to overcome. Yes, McMullin is running as an (I) not a (D) which would be the kiss of death in Utah. But is it enough to shift the heavy lean towards Republicans that exists throughout the state? I say no way. I would LOVE to be wrong on this one.

[SeattleUte]

When are Utahns going to wake up and realize the Republican Party has become something different than what they think it is?

This is from a conservative pundit from the National Review.

What Comes After the Religious Right?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/01/o...e=articleShare

[SeattleUte]

There's more to what's going on in politics than meets the eye. Turns out all our problems are class-based.

Except for a Catholic (with Mormon) strain of educated elite crackpots, the alt-right is pretty much lower class whites who have seen good working class jobs disappear.

Whites on the radical left are educated elites and the poor are on the radical right.

Bernie Sanders correctly identified the crux of what ails us, though he's personally deficient and his solutions are questionable.

Our homeless mess is also a manifestation of this problem.

Some here are emblematic of the problem as they see it. Rich white elite in a big city who sends his kids off to become management consultants who rig the system to take all the money, and couldn't care less about the working class's economic catastrophe and dying off prematurely from opioids, drink and despair.

[Jeff Lebowski]

When are Utahns going to wake up and realize the Republican Party has become something different than what they think it is?

This is from a conservative pundit from the National Review.

What Comes After the Religious Right?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/01/o...e=articleShare

That was really interesting. Thanks.

It is a crazy time. I am saddened and disgusted by the Republican party right now, but at the same time I am increasingly repulsed by the democrats with identity politics, defund the police, woke nonsense, fiscal failures, etc. Talk about a massively bungled opportunity.