At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

[myboynoah]

Well he's very forceful in his presentation and questions the motives of everyone else, and it is on the internet, and he is a Dr., so he's got to be right.

[CJF]

https://youtu.be/PWY0oZV51VY

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/health/2020/02/22/anthony-fauci-on-coronavirus-smerconish-vpx.cnn

[wuapinmon]

I would like to see a chart breaking down deaths per country per those infected.

[myboynoah]

You're like a genie. I'm asking for the wrong things.

Thank you.

So just looking at that, comparing China with Korea and Japan, China's death and serious/critical patient rates are much higher that the more developed, better healthcare system possessing Korea and Japan. This might suggest the more developed the country, the better the response in terms of saving lives. I'm stating the obvious.

[beefytee]

Who knew that the Covid-19 was going to address global warming:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/covid-19-coronavirus-climate-carbon-emissions-china-economy-1.5477466

Seems a little concerning for the supply chain.

[Donuthole]

Who knew that the Covid-19 was going to address global warming:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/covid-19-coronavirus-climate-carbon-emissions-china-economy-1.5477466

Seems a little concerning for the supply chain.

It's because billions of people are wearing a simple mask and breathing back in a portion of the CO2 they would normally be spewing into the atmosphere.

[Pelado]

It's because billions of people are wearing a simple mask and breathing back in a portion of the CO2 they would normally be spewing into the atmosphere.

We need to get masks for all the cattle spewing methane into the environment.

cowboy - can you get on that, please?

[CardiacCoug]

https://www.ksl.com/article/46723709...medical-center

[clackamascoug]

In Answer to the Original Question - Today Feb 28, 2020 is when I started taking it seriously.

Coronavirus has been identified within 15 miles from where I live. I never get sick - but tonight I have what feels like a bit of a sore throat coming on. My everyday plans are now taking in consideration regarding the virus.

[myboynoah]

This doesn't generate a whole lot of confidence in those tasked with managing this outbreak.

Coronavirus rumors and chaos in Alabama point to big problems as U.S. seeks to contain virus

“I was shocked,” Anniston Mayor Jack Draper said. “I was shocked by the lack of planning. I was shocked by the manner in which it was presented to us.”

Two HHS officials — Darcie Johnston, director of intergovernmental affairs, and Kevin Yeskey, principal deputy assistant secretary for preparedness and response — said in a Feb. 23 meeting with local officials that the patients would be flown from California to the Fort McClellan Army Airfield in Anniston, according to multiple local officials.

The airfield was closed when the Army base was shuttered in 1999. Local officials said they told the HHS officials during the meeting the runway was in bad shape.

“The more we talked,” Hodges said, “the more holes we found.”

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But the center doesn’t have any special capabilities for handling infectious diseases, local officials said. The center is used for training. It has isolation hospital rooms — located in a former Army hospital building — but they are mostly just props, with fake equipment and light switches that exist only as paint on walls.

Meanwhile, federal officials never contacted the town’s hospital, Regional Medical Center, about handling covid-19 patients, said Louis Bass, the hospital’s chief executive.

Yet HHS officials said in a statement released to the public Feb. 22 that patients who become seriously ill would be sent to “pre-identified hospitals for medical care.”

“We were surprised,” Bass said.

[Bo Diddley]

This doesn't generate a whole lot of confidence in those tasked with managing this outbreak.

Coronavirus rumors and chaos in Alabama point to big problems as U.S. seeks to contain virus

And the CDC botched it as well. I read yesterday how they insisted on using their own test over what was being used overseas, but their test has serious problems.

[cowboy]

We need to get masks for all the cattle spewing methane into the environment.

cowboy - can you get on that, please?

I feed my cows Beano. Because climate change.

Cattle prices and GDP are highly correlated, with a simple supply-adjusted R-squared of .82. The April live cattle futures have sold off more in the last 7 weeks than any 7-week period in the history of the contract, which suggests the market is preparing for this to cause a major recession. If corona is contained without disrupting our commerce, we may see the cost of goods imported from China skyrocket because their productivity decline has been so pronounced. If it isn't contained, it could plunge the world into a depression.

[Pelado]

Cattle prices and GDP are highly correlated, with a simple supply-adjusted R-squared of .82.

I was thinking it would be closer to .78.

[Katy Lied]

A Study just produced in China by Peng Zhou et al, Molecular and serological investigation of 2019-nCoV infected patients: implication of multiple shedding routes hypothesizes that the coronavirus has multiple shedding routes at different stages of the infection. This may be why someone will test negative then positive, or vice versa. They tested patients are 4 sites: oral swab, fecal swab, serum (dont know what that is- maybe the blood transporter?) and blood. Here are the results of the tests:

Table 1.jpg

I always wondered how the tests could prove inconclusive, and why we couldnt get a straight answer on when the patient was shedding the virus. So maybe it has multiple shedding routes and different shedding times: In this table, the oral and fecal swabs were done at Day 0, and again at Day 5.

Table 2.jpg

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...1.2020.1729071

Weird, that some patients are shedding a large amount of virus, and are severe infections, while other patients are shedding just as much, but are mild cases.

[myboynoah]

My greatest fear of contracting it is not that I would die, but that I would be thrust into a bureaucrat healthcare process of treatment and confinement and isolation in which I would lose freedom of movement for at least 14 days. Ugh.

Also, everyone would think I have cooties.

A long-awaited trip to China. A disease strikes. A family’s escape from coronavirus.

As the coronavirus threat continues to spread around the world, claiming new victims and upending financial markets, the family’s escape from a region wracked by the virus offers a glimpse into the personal experience and worries of those who have faced the threat close up. And it is a window into the steps taken to ensure the family’s health and that of the community to which they have returned.

“The operative word of the entire experience was anxiety,” Lowe said last week in a phone interview.

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At Lackland, they and the other evacuees were quarantined in small apartments on the base for two weeks. They were fed and treated well. Toys were provided for the children. But there was a perimeter fence they weren’t allowed to cross. And armed guards stood sentry around the compound. The apartments were cleaned every day by crews wearing hazmat suits. The evacuees were told not to socialize with others who were being quarantined.

“It is incarceration, but it’s incarceration where the staff is nice and supportive and friendly,” Lowe said. “It’s prison where you forsake your freedom for the sake of public health. Psychologically, I felt that way. I felt the freedom that I lacked.”