At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

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  • beefytee
    Board eye candy
    • Mar 2009
    • 7542

    #466
    Looking into the future, the UK will probably end up like Italy that had 250 deaths today even though the country is virtually shut down.

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    • beefytee
      Board eye candy
      • Mar 2009
      • 7542

      #467
      Looks like they just closed Utah schools for 2 weeks.

      https://www.ksl.com/article/46729951...id-19-outbreak

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      • wuapinmon
        Soul Plumber
        • Dec 2008
        • 30711

        #468
        A colleague in biology sent me this page about how to teach about coronavirus:&nbsp;<a href="https://serendipstudio.org/exchange/bioactivities/coronavirus">https://serendipstudio.org/exchange/bioactivities/coronavirus</a>
        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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        • Surfah
          Where's Wallace?
          • Nov 2008
          • 33726

          #469
          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post


          Thinking back on our trip to Japan and the well-appointed hotel bathrooms, more sympathetic I could not be.
          My first experience with a bidet took my breath away and I now understand what questioning means.
          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
          -Turtle
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          • Eddie
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 8098

            #470
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            A better explanation of the UK's approach.

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-strategy-work
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            • myboynoah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 21719

              #471
              How big is the cruise industry? A lot of concern for an industry that seems pretty marginal.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • PaloAltoCougar
                Semper infra dignitatem
                • Nov 2008
                • 16917

                #472
                Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                How big is the cruise industry? A lot of concern for an industry that seems pretty marginal.
                I like an occasional cruise, but why bail out an industry whose services are so non-essential? Especially cruise lines that eliminate or avoid U.S. taxes by flying foreign flags while raking in U.S. dollars?

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                • Jeff Lebowski
                  Corporate lackey for Jesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 69488

                  #473
                  Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                  I like an occasional cruise, but why bail out an industry whose services are so non-essential? Especially cruise lines that eliminate or avoid U.S. taxes by flying foreign flags while raking in U.S. dollars?
                  Cruise industry also has a significant negative environmental impact. Waste disposal etc.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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                  • myboynoah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 21719

                    #474
                    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                    I like an occasional cruise, but why bail out an industry whose services are so non-essential? Especially cruise lines that eliminate or avoid U.S. taxes by flying foreign flags while raking in U.S. dollars?
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    Cruise industry also has a significant negative environmental impact. Waste disposal etc.
                    I don't understand it. It's gotta be that they hang out with Trump and have his ear.

                    The ariline industry is gonna really need that help and is more essential to the economy.
                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • SeattleUte
                      Faith crisis consultant
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 20837

                      #475
                      Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                      Well, that is an approach. Very risky. Don't know how you effectively build a wall around your vulnerable population. And even a certain number of young people suffer serious consequences as a result of the infection.

                      But the UK is an island, so why not cut them off from the rest of the world and let them try it? What could go wrong?
                      Governments make strategic decisions weighing mortality risks with different approaches all the time. Why does the flu, with hundreds of millions who get sick and tens of thousands of deaths, get largely ignored? And there's a bright line that separates risk here. How much more at risk will the vulnerable be put if we wreck the economy and we don't? Are all those teens who don't have to go to school sticking to solitary confinement? What are the school closures changing? The vulnerable have to take the same precautions either way.

                      Why not ban alcohol because it destroys unborn children? Why let people own cars?

                      If we destroy the economy there may be more misery and death than Covid-19 will cause. Meanwhile, politicians care mainly about not being blamed in the short term for even a single death.

                      As usual, the British are showing a lot of brass and independence. Johnson has brought that back to them. The Miracle at Dunkirk. Eff you, France. You blew it. We're going to beat Hitler our own way.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • myboynoah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 21719

                        #476
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        Governments make strategic decisions weighing mortality risks with different approaches all the time. Why does the flu, with hundreds of millions who get sick and tens of thousands of deaths, get largely ignored? And there's a bright line that separates risk here. How much more at risk will the vulnerable be put if we wreck the economy and we don't? Are all those teens who don't have to go to school sticking to solitary confinement? What are the school closures changing? The vulnerable have to take the same precautions either way.

                        Why not ban alcohol because it destroys unborn children? Why let people own cars?

                        If we destroy the economy there may be more misery and death than Covid-19 will cause. Meanwhile, politicians care mainly about not being blamed in the short term for even a single death.

                        As usual, the British are showing a lot of brass and independence. Johnson has brought that back to them. The Miracle at Dunkirk. Eff you, France. You blew it. We're going to beat Hitler our own way.
                        Like I said, could work, so let the UK go for it. But just close the island off so it doesn't infect the rest of us while we choose a different path.
                        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                        • SeattleUte
                          Faith crisis consultant
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 20837

                          #477
                          Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                          Like I said, could work, so let the UK go for it. But just close the island off so it doesn't infect the rest of us while we choose a different path.
                          Where you come down on this issue may turn on how much you depend on the economy. I doubt you own a restaurant.
                          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                          --Jonathan Swift

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                          • myboynoah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 21719

                            #478
                            Uh oh.

                            A second person who visited Trump's Mar-a-Lago club over the weekend has reportedly tested positive for coronavirus
                            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                            • Bo Diddley
                              Senior
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 18720

                              #479
                              Do they match the same source? We're so late in the testing game that I suspect it's already all over the place.

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                              • myboynoah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 21719

                                #480
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                Where you come down on this issue may turn on how much you depend on the economy. I doubt you own a restaurant.
                                I don't own a cruise line either. We are all touched by the economy. Do you really think restaurants and cruise lines aren't going to suffer under a "herd immunity" strategy? Which approach will damage the economy more? You have no idea.

                                There is light at the end of the tunnel here in Korea and in China.

                                Let UK do its thing. Just seal the island off so the rest of us can do our thing.
                                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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