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  • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

    I'm not a Trump fan. I didn't vote for him in the primary but I voted for him in the general. I agree with about 85% of what he does but hate his bedside manner. I'm just the punching bag for a couple of dopes on here.
    But..wont condemn corruption

    Without condemnation it is assumed you are ok with it

    If it isn't worth getting g angry about it is a moral thing on what one is ok with from their president

    Your vote means you support unless specified otherwise

    Am I to assume you want all democrats tried for treason

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    • Originally posted by wally View Post

      The falafel view of the spectrum of Trump support:

      Pick one:
      1. Boot-licking MAGat that has an IQ of 31, is racist, and fascist, so brainwashed they would die for the man.
      2. The rest of us sane, rational people who want that tyrant (aka, Hitler reincarnate) gone by any means. (ANY means).
      Please pick one option and only one option. Middle ground responses will be treated as a #1 answer.
      The thing is when trump xoes this stuff it is utter silence from the board.

      If the maga people actually said trump shouldn't do x and y, man this is bad we are spending 2 billion on trump pet project etc

      No they dont say anything . So the assumption is man trump can do anything .

      So in the end basically you jave to ignore everything trump does and then say we dont support him 100% so how are we supposed to know what maga supports or not

      He keeps going more and more on corruption and goes further and further away from mainstream and calls all democrats traitors and maga is silent so should I assume shaka thinks all democrats deserve execution ?

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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

        And we cannot rest until the Trump folks are adequately shamed and the board is ideologically pure. Amirite?
        What a joke. You're the biggest gatekeeper on this site.

        You chased away 3 or 4 posters personally calling them out pver and over

        You ignore people if they disagree with you too much

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        • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

          What a joke. You're the biggest gatekeeper on this site.

          You chased away 3 or 4 posters personally calling them out pver and over

          You ignore people if they disagree with you too much
          I doubt he saw that post.
          “Every player dreams of being a Yankee, and if they don’t it’s because they never got the chance.” Aroldis Chapman

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          • Originally posted by Copelius View Post

            I doubt he saw that post.
            Which post. How wouldn't he see posts

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            • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

              Which post. How wouldn't he see posts
              I think he was making a funny based on the third line of your previous post.

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              • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                But..wont condemn corruption

                Without condemnation it is assumed you are ok with it

                If it isn't worth getting g angry about it is a moral thing on what one is ok with from their president

                Your vote means you support unless specified otherwise

                Am I to assume you want all democrats tried for treason
                You're a really weird guy.

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                • I’m co-leading the Fifth Sunday discussion regarding the Declaration of Independence and Constitution—all U.S. wards will be having one this week. It’s been fun and interesting to review the events of 1776. As public support for independence grew, the Second Continental Congress appointed the Committee of Five to draft a declaration. The Committee consisted of Thomas Jefferson, Roger Sherman, Robert Livingston, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin. They produced one of history’s greatest documents, replete with lofty ambitions and noble self-sacrifice.

                  Now 250 years later, after Trump brought a baseless suit against the Trump Administration for acts committed during the Trump Administration, the Trump Administration, defended by the Trump Administration, settled with the Trump Administration for $1.776 Billion, to be distributed to hundreds of lawbreakers, including some who literally shat on the Capitol. The funds will be distributed by a new Committee of Five, appointed and controlled by the Trump Administration. And Trump supporters apparently see no problem with this. How far we have fallen.

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                  • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                    I find this to be rather arrogant. Who or what determines when a person is not being honest. Based on their answer which you do not like hey see they don’t fit into your pre-conceived opinion of what a person is in regards to Trump. Your TDS is shinning through.
                    TDS, lol. Got me there, and I am cowed.
                    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                    Dig your own grave, and save!

                    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post


                      It's as if the idea that someone here has the audacity to be a Trump supporter (at any level or at any point in time) is more disconcerting than the actual dumb stuff trump does.
                      Yes, Jeff, it is more disconcerting that ANYONE would be a Trump supporter, now, in the past, and into the eternities. Trump is transparent in his ideas, as idiotic as they are. Many people voted for him on that basis alone. So yeah, it is more disconcerting that a person would look at Trump and think, "Well, now there's a guy I can get behind."

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                      • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                        I’m co-leading the Fifth Sunday discussion regarding the Declaration of Independence and Constitution—all U.S. wards will be having one this week. It’s been fun and interesting to review the events of 1776. As public support for independence grew, the Second Continental Congress appointed the Committee of Five to draft a declaration. The Committee consisted of Thomas Jefferson, Roger Sherman, Robert Livingston, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin. They produced one of history’s greatest documents, replete with lofty ambitions and noble self-sacrifice.

                        Now 250 years later, after Trump brought a baseless suit against the Trump Administration for acts committed during the Trump Administration, the Trump Administration, defended by the Trump Administration, settled with the Trump Administration for $1.776 Billion, to be distributed to hundreds of lawbreakers, including some who literally shat on the Capitol. The funds will be distributed by a new Committee of Five, appointed and controlled by the Trump Administration. And Trump supporters apparently see no problem with this. How far we have fallen.
                        Truly sad. I also get to co-lead the discussion in our ward. I expect it to be pretty pedestrian but if there’s fireworks I’ll be sure to return and report.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                          Truly sad. I also get to co-lead the discussion in our ward. I expect it to be pretty pedestrian but if there’s fireworks I’ll be sure to return and report.
                          I get to lead the youth discussion. If the 22 minute video hasn’t put them deep into REM sleep by then.

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                          • My wife and I will be leading the 5th Sunday discussion for the Valiant 11 class. I expect a lot of fireworks.
                            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                            - Goatnapper'96

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                            • Originally posted by originalsocal View Post

                              Yes, Jeff, it is more disconcerting that ANYONE would be a Trump supporter, now, in the past, and into the eternities. Trump is transparent in his ideas, as idiotic as they are. Many people voted for him on that basis alone. So yeah, it is more disconcerting that a person would look at Trump and think, "Well, now there's a guy I can get behind."
                              I think the solution to Trump voters is to cut them out of our lives completely. Like, there should be camps where we can concentrate them so that we know that we are safely separated from them. To try to understand them and live beside them is too dangerous.

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                              • Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

                                I get to lead the youth discussion. If the 22 minute video hasn’t put them deep into REM sleep by then.
                                The video is actually pretty good, but we decided early on we wouldn't show it as a 20+ minute video of anything would positively kill any hope of a good discussion. We sent everyone a link to the video and President Oaks's very good 2021 talk on the Constitution, asking them to review both and to come prepared to ask about everything they wanted to know about the Declaration and Constitution but were afraid to ask (I expect a minimum of 5% of the audience will do so).

                                Among other things, I'm going to touch on Walter Isaacson's The Greatest Sentence Ever Written ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...") which by itself is worth an hour's discussion.

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