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  • Donuthole
    Official Outgayer
    • Nov 2008
    • 25216

    #18376
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Let me say again that lecturing someone that their political viewpoint doesn't properly match their religion's teaching is the most annoying debate tactic ever.
    I agree, unless that person has used their religion's teaching previously/frequently to justify their political viewpoints, in which case is is fair game.
    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69398

      #18377
      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

      I agree, unless that person has used their religion's teaching previously/frequently to justify their political viewpoints, in which case is is fair game.
      Sure
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • LVAllen
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 3213

        #18378
        Is it fair game to point out that without due process and the writ of habeas corpus, Joseph Smith, that vile lawbreaker, would have spent more time in jails than he did?

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        • frank ryan
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 12255

          #18379
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          Let me say again that lecturing someone that their political viewpoint doesn't properly match their religion's teaching is the most annoying debate tactic ever.
          Lecturing? MAGA is all about a John McNaughton world view and performative Christianity and "Christian Nationalism."

          They are constantly grandstanding on "Christian," values.
          It is a valid point to bring up.

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          • Maximus
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 5996

            #18380
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Let me say again that lecturing someone that their political viewpoint doesn't properly match their religion's teaching is the most annoying debate tactic ever.
            until it is lgbt stuff

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            • falafel
              loves to talk on things
              • Mar 2009
              • 37835

              #18381
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Let me say again that lecturing someone that their political viewpoint doesn't properly match their religion's teaching is the most annoying debate tactic ever.
              You may have a standing objection.
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • wally
                <><><><><><><><>
                • Jun 2010
                • 4132

                #18382
                I am disappointed that the riots in L.A. are distracting from what was a promising escalation in the dissolution of the Trump-Musk bromance. I think that had more entertainment value.

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                • Shaka
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 10432

                  #18383
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Let me say again that lecturing someone that their political viewpoint doesn't properly match their religion's teaching is the most annoying debate tactic ever.
                  Agreed. I found it amusing that he was trying to torpedo me by dropping a church stance, thus my Article of Faith.

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                  • Maximus
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5996

                    #18384
                    just pretty hypocritical to advocate people spend money to proselyte for the church and then being ok when are they sent to prison after.

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                    • Shaka
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 10432

                      #18385
                      Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                      just pretty hypocritical to advocate people spend money to proselyte for the church and then being ok when are they sent to prison after.
                      There's nothing hypocritical about it. Post-mission, they should return to their country of origin and, if they wish to emigrate, do so legally.

                      I'm all for legal immigration. I'm completely opposed to a president, or whoever is controlling the White House, turning the border into a sieve.

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                      • Maximus
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5996

                        #18386
                        Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                        There's nothing hypocritical about it. Post-mission, they should return to their country of origin and, if they wish to emigrate, do so legally.

                        I'm all for legal immigration. I'm completely opposed to a president, or whoever is controlling the White House, turning the border into a sieve.
                        No one did. The Church supports sending them out because....

                        Follow that logic. So you support part 2 but not part 2?

                        They dont have a chance to integrate legally. Already 10 or so LEGAL immigrants have been arrested and deported to prisons.

                        So I assume in those cases you did show disagreement?

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                        • wuapinmon
                          Soul Plumber
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 30693

                          #18387
                          Legal immigration should reflect the reality on the ground. The last time there was a significant change in immigration law was 1986. Our economy needs workers. People want to come here to work. That we take their tax money and not give them residency is unethical, to me. They are taxed, but not represented.
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • Maximus
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5996

                            #18388
                            how do you feel about ICE showing up at schools and taking kids or their parents shaka?

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                            • frank ryan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12255

                              #18389
                              Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                              Legal immigration should reflect the reality on the ground. The last time there was a significant change in immigration law was 1986. Our economy needs workers. People want to come here to work. That we take their tax money and not give them residency is unethical, to me. They are taxed, but not represented.
                              From day one, going back to his first administration, Trump and has ilk and have been hammering this issue.

                              Trump sabotaged bipartisan solutions MAGA needs something to rally around.

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                              • wuapinmon
                                Soul Plumber
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 30693

                                #18390
                                Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                                From day one, going back to his first administration, Trump and has ilk and have been hammering this issue.

                                Trump sabotaged bipartisan solutions MAGA needs something to rally around.
                                Of course he did. The Heritage Foundation/Schutzstaffel wants a nation purged of aliens that aren't wealthy, highly-educated, highly-talented, or can somehow otherwise enrich the 1%. Even then, it's better that they be Caucasian, Christian, and have "high standards, comparable to our own."

                                Fuck the Heritage Foundation a thousand times over. I'm truly surprised that they haven't been the target of protests, en masse.
                                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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