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  • #13981
    Originally posted by fusnik View Post

    It’s the only option to save the GOP, IMO. I’m open to being persuaded to a different path, but the last 7 years have shown us that regardless of what he does the conservative movement will fall in line behind him.

    The only power you have is if a chunk of conservatives as a block vote democrat and the party suffers major losses for 1 to 2 cycles. Losing in the short term is the only way you wrangle control back from the loons.

    We need two strong political parties. The GOP is one election cycle from becoming full MAGA, that should scare all of us.
    I've heard similar "only option" scenarios from MAGA types.

    We need to do whatever it takes to stop the democrats who are evil and corrupt!

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    • #13982
      Originally posted by beefytee View Post

      I've heard similar "only option" scenarios from MAGA types.

      We need to do whatever it takes to stop the democrats who are evil and corrupt!
      When faced with the insurgent wing aka the nutso faction of the Democratic Party, the voters bitch slapped Bernie and told Elizabeth Warren and the squad to STFU.

      When the GOP was faced with the MAGA insurgency, they rolled over and begged Trump to pet their bellies and be nice to them.

      Not even close to the same.

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      • #13983
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Biden's brother seems pretty corrupt.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...bribery-probe/



        And Hunter Biden is corrupt as hell. Did Joe directly benefit from his corruption? Maybe not, but he certainly stood by and allowed it to happen.

        He is a million times less corrupt that Trump, but let's not kid ourselves here.
        Wait, hold up, you are telling me when a family member gets any sort of power, whether political or business they do business with other family members?

        No way!

        Im sure the Huntsman’s and the Romneys and the Smiths have never done biz with their kind.
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        • #13984
          Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
          He’s a politician. With any politician, it’s not a question of if they are are corrupt, by how much.

          Biden is not corrupt enough to be described as high crimes and misdemeanors.
          The problem, as I see it, with the term "corrupt" is that it seems to be a binary. You are either corrupt, or you are not. The public does not care about the matter of degree. It's not a useful term.
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • #13985
            Originally posted by fusnik View Post

            Wait, hold up, you are telling me when a family member gets any sort of power, whether political or business they do business with other family members?

            No way!

            Im sure the Huntsman’s and the Romneys and the Smiths have never done biz with their kind.
            Haha. That has to be the weakest whatabout response I have ever seen.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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            • #13986
              Originally posted by fusnik View Post

              Wait, hold up, you are telling me when a family member gets any sort of power, whether political or business they do business with other family members?

              No way!

              Im sure the Huntsman’s and the Romneys and the Smiths have never done biz with their kind.
              He called hunter from.the white house before though. It definitely means he is involved with hunters corruption of ...owning guns

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              • #13987
                I highly doubt Joe Biden is actively complicit in Hunters business dealings but I’d wager he’s also not smart enough to know when he’s ignorantly helping Hunter make money. Joe isn’t exactly at Mitts level of business chops.

                Ill still vote for Joe over Trump because I’d prefer a stupid politician that buys votes and spends like a drunken sailor over a stupid politician that tries to over throw the government and spends like a drunken sailor.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • #13988
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  I highly doubt Joe Biden is actively complicit in Hunters business dealings but I’d wager he’s also not smart enough to know when he’s ignorantly helping Hunter make money. Joe isn’t exactly at Mitts level of business chops.

                  Ill still vote for Joe over Trump because I’d prefer a stupid politician that buys votes and spends like a drunken sailor over a stupid politician that tries to over throw the government and spends like a drunken sailor.
                  Whatever, you voted GOP once in the last 32 years so you're 100% MAGA and a piece of human trash.
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

                  "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                  "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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                  • #13989
                    Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                    He called hunter from.the white house before though. It definitely means he is involved with hunters corruption of ...owning guns
                    Hunter already admitted to avoiding taxes, which is a felony and deserves jail time.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • #13990
                      Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                      Hunter already admitted to avoiding taxes, which is a felony and deserves jail time.
                      Avoiding taxes is perfectly legal. Evading taxes, on the other hand, not so much.
                      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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                      • #13991
                        Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                        Avoiding taxes is perfectly legal. Evading taxes, on the other hand, not so much.
                        I've been known to evoid them. Where do I stand?

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                        • #13992
                          Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                          Avoiding taxes is perfectly legal. Evading taxes, on the other hand, not so much.
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • #13993
                            Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post

                            I've been known to evoid them. Where do I stand?
                            Electronic voiding? Is that a banking thing, or a cyber method of evacuating bodily fluids?

                            Not sure of the legality of either practice. Let your conscience guide.
                            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                            - Goatnapper'96

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                            • #13994
                              Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                              Hunter already admitted to avoiding taxes, which is a felony and deserves jail time.
                              I have heard from federal prosecutors that those back taxes, while they were ‘avoided,’ were paid back in 2021-2018 and while it is a crime, prosecutorial discretion kicks in on cases like this where restitution is made before charges are filed. So he’ll go to jail to make Trump happy?
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                              • #13995
                                Originally posted by Commando View Post

                                I have heard from federal prosecutors that those back taxes, while they were ‘avoided,’ were paid back in 2021-2018 and while it is a crime, prosecutorial discretion kicks in on cases like this where restitution is made before charges are filed. So he’ll go to jail to make Trump happy?
                                His true crime was being too dumb to get away with it.

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