President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Walter Sobchak]

We should mos def stay in Syria indefinitely... just like Iraq.

[Commando]

We should mos def stay in Syria indefinitely... just like Iraq.

We should mos def pull the rug out from under the Kurds.

[Bo Diddley]

We should mos def stay in Syria indefinitely... just like Iraq.

I think we should continue to remove tyrants, then leave a vacuum of power when we get tired. It seems to work well for us the world.

[frank ryan]

I think we should continue to remove tyrants, then leave a vacuum of power when we get tired. It seems to work well for us the world.

Walter’s political idol esteems Francisco Franco as a hero and thinks it might have been a good idea to stay out of WW2.

The US is far from perfect and there have awful things done in terms of military interventions and wars, but one has to be daft to think our absence from global security issues would make the world or our country safer.

[Eddie]

We should mos def stay in Syria indefinitely... just like Iraq.

Is Trump removing troops from Syria? Or just moving them around in Syria?

If Trump was looking at bringing troops home, I might listen to the arguments. But from what I understand, he's just moving them from one area of Syria to another. Leaving the folks who have been fighting ISIS with us unprotected seems like a dick move.

[Uncle Ted]

Is Trump removing troops from Syria? Or just moving them around in Syria?

If Trump was looking at bringing troops home, I might listen to the arguments. But from what I understand, he's just moving them from one area of Syria to another. Leaving the folks who have been fighting ISIS with us unprotected seems like a dick move.

Drumpf is moving 25 people a very short distance....

‘Very small number’ of troops pulled from Syria-Turkey border: US official
[...]
The pullback only concerns “two very small detachments” — meaning less than 25 people in total — that have been moved a “very short distance,” the official says.
[...]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...r-us-official/


The entertainment in all of this is watching the Dems' all become warmongers.

[Walter Sobchak]

The entertainment in all of this is watching the Dems' all become warmongers.

We cannot bring troops home because that would not be in {insert any country not named America here}'s best interest... instead it would be playing right into the hands of {insert one of Russia, Iran, or North Korea}.

Rinse.

Repeat.

[creekster]

Drumpf is moving 25 people a very short distance....


https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...r-us-official/


The entertainment in all of this is watching the Dems' all become warmongers.

That ignores the reality of what is happening. Even though the total number of troops is small, their presence prevents the Turks from running roughshod over the Kurds. Erdogan tells Trump he wants to invade and Trump agrees to move our personnel to avoid conflict and entanglements. Erdogan specifically plans to attack the Kurds, and told Trump this (When Turkey talks about clearing terrorists away from its border, they mean ISIS AND the Kurds). It is a complete abrogation of our commitment to the Kurds, (again) and totally undermines our credibility in general and certainly as long as Trump is in the WH. I am in favor of getting out of Syria and other places. But doing it like this, on the back of a late Sunday night tweet after Erdogan rolled Trumpo in a phone call, is egregiously wrong regardless of how you feel about military adventurism.

[creekster]

We cannot bring troops home because that would not be in {insert any country not named America here}'s best interest... instead it would be playing right into the hands of {insert one of Russia, Iran, or North Korea}.

Rinse.

Repeat.

Wrong argument. Trump isnt bringing anyone home. He is just getting out of the way so the Turks can kill Kurds. I fully agree we should stop intervening and engaging as much as we have in the past (we cannot afford it, if for no other reason) but having engaged, we have to make sure our disengagement makes sense and doesn't undermine our interests in a very palpable way. How likely is it the Kurds would help against ISIS or others now?

[Walter Sobchak]

That ignores the reality of what is happening. Even though the total number of troops is small, their presence prevents the Turks from running roughshod over the Kurds. Erdogan tells Trump he wants to invade and Trump agrees to move our personnel to avoid conflict and entanglements. Erdogan specifically plans to attack the Kurds, and told Trump this (When Turkey talks about clearing terrorists away from its border, they mean ISIS AND the Kurds). It is a complete abrogation of our commitment to the Kurds, (again) and totally undermines our credibility in general and certainly as long as Trump is in the WH. I am in favor of getting out of Syria and other places. But doing it like this, on the back of a late Sunday night tweet after Erdogan rolled Trumpo in a phone call, is egregiously wrong regardless of how you feel about military adventurism.

Can you cite the Congressional authorized "commitment" of which you speak? You are aware that we are in Syria illegally, right?

[Uncle Ted]

That ignores the reality of what is happening. Even though the total number of troops is small, their presence prevents the Turks from running roughshod over the Kurds. Erdogan tells Trump he wants to invade and Trump agrees to move our personnel to avoid conflict and entanglements. Erdogan specifically plans to attack the Kurds, and told Trump this (When Turkey talks about clearing terrorists away from its border, they mean ISIS AND the Kurds). It is a complete abrogation of our commitment to the Kurds, (again) and totally undermines our credibility in general and certainly as long as Trump is in the WH. I am in favor of getting out of Syria and other places. But doing it like this, on the back of a late Sunday night tweet after Erdogan rolled Trumpo in a phone call, is egregiously wrong regardless of how you feel about military adventurism.

Maybe it is a test... If the Turks start running roughshod then he will carpet bomb them and the Dems will start calling the GOP'ers the warmongers again.

[Uncle Ted]

Can you cite the Congressional authorized "commitment" of which you speak? You are aware that we are in Syria illegally, right?

It was the Obama Congress that authorized this commitment for a month... Frank, can you give us a ruling?

[creekster]

Can you cite the Congressional authorized "commitment" of which you speak? You are aware that we are in Syria illegally, right?

That is irrelevant. He is not bringing anyone home. Moreover, there is a question as to whether this particular use of military personnel does, in fact, fall under the War Powers act because they were there only in the nature of advisors (although I realize the weakness of that argument). That said, the reality is that we were there, we were working with the Kurds, who have suffered over 10k in casualties fighting ISIS for themselves but also at our behest, and then, when the Turks want to roll into town to clear them out we step back and let it happen. It would be one thing it this was Turkey in the west-friendly days of Attaturk, but this is an action by one of the worst dictators in the world.

[Uncle Ted]

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Has Snopes investigated this yet?

[Uncle Ted]

That is irrelevant. He is not bringing anyone home. Moreover, there is a question as to whether this particular use of military personnel does, in fact, fall under the War Powers act because they were there only in the nature of advisors (although I realize the weakness of that argument). That said, the reality is that we were there, we were working with the Kurds, who have suffered over 10k in casualties fighting ISIS for themselves but also at our behest, and then, when the Turks want to roll into town to clear them out we step back and let it happen. It would be one thing it this was Turkey in the west-friendly days of Attaturk, but this is an action by one of the worst dictators in the world.

We should have just have sent the drones in... They could have got the job done with about half the casualties.