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  • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

    You of all people should know this is true. Look at what government loans (which are now just government handouts) and grants have done to the cost of education. It increased the demand without doing anything really about increasing the supply. Giving $25,000 for down payments will do the same for homes.

    The same is true for food. The Dems with their green new deal want to turn farmlands into giant solar farms which will decrease the domestic food supply. Not to mention they want to drive the cost of farming through the roof (e.g., energy costs). The Dems solution: price controls. Dumb.
    I agree with all of that. What is nonsense is the content of the Loomer post your shared. He is not going to remove all regulations and regulations do not account for 40% of the cost of a new home. Come on.
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

      I agree with all of that. What is nonsense is the content of the Loomer post your shared. He is not going to remove all regulations and regulations do not account for 40% of the cost of a new home. Come on.
      JL, what you are missing with that Loomer post is that the democrats are idiots. Should be pretty clear from anything Ted posts.
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

        I agree with all of that. What is nonsense is the content of the Loomer post your shared. He is not going to remove all regulations and regulations do not account for 40% of the cost of a new home. Come on.
        This is old, 2021:

        regulations imposed by government at all levels account for 23.8 percent of the final price of a new single- family home built for sale.
        https://www.nahb.org/-/media/NAHB/ne...d6b3558881227b

        I am sure this depends on the market as well. Government regulation on public lands I am sure drives up the costs of homes significantly. For example, the lack of land to build on here in North Utah I am sure has a lot to do with the cost of building a new home.
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

          This is old, 2021:


          https://www.nahb.org/-/media/NAHB/ne...d6b3558881227b

          I am sure this depends on the market as well. Government regulation on public lands I am sure drives up the costs of homes significantly. For example, the lack of land to build on here in North Utah I am sure has a lot to do with the cost of building a new home.
          So you agree with me then. Far less than 40% and there is no way he is going to cancel all of those regulations. Maga nonsense.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

            So you agree with me then. Far less than 40% and there is no way he is going to cancel all of those regulations. Maga nonsense.
            No. In places where land is scarce it could be much higher than 40%. Besides that data is 4 years old. In all of Utah the price for undeveloped acre of land increased 12% in just 2023:

            According to the Utah Association of Realtors, the median price per acre for undeveloped land in Utah increased by 12% in 2023 compared to the previous year, reflecting growing demand.
            https://www.landboss.net/post/evalua...ah-land-market

            Note that nearly 65% of the land in Utah is federally own. Just think what would happen to house prices if the federal government freed up some of that land for private development. Where else is the government going to put all of these (11-25 million) immigrants coming into the country? (Wait... immigration is a federal government policy as well.)
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

              No. In places where land is scarce it could be much higher than 40%. Besides that data is 4 years old. In all of Utah the price for undeveloped acre of land increased 12% in just 2023:


              https://www.landboss.net/post/evalua...ah-land-market

              Note that nearly 65% of the land in Utah is federally own. Just think what would happen to house prices if the federal government freed up some of that land for private development. Where else is the government going to put all of these (11-25 million) immigrants coming into the country? (Wait... immigration is a federal government policy as well.)
              Sounds like a very sensible housing policy Ted. And it potentially solves the immigration problem. Trump has your vote, right?
              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
              "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
              - SeattleUte

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              • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                Sounds like a very sensible housing policy Ted. And it potentially solves the immigration problem. Trump has your vote, right?
                I have no problem with a sensible immigration policy... Besides I believe we have way too many cats in this country.
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                  I have no problem with a sensible immigration policy... Besides I believe we have way too many cats in this country.
                  Ah, what wasn't said...

                  9/13/2024. Mark it, the day Ted finally admitted he will vote for Trump!
                  "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                  "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                  - SeattleUte

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                  • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                    Ah, what wasn't said...

                    9/13/2024. Mark it, the day Ted finally admitted he will vote for Trump!
                    I am not voting for Trump... JD Vance maybe.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Housing regulations are local, not federal. Am I missing something?
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                        Housing regulations are local, not federal. Am I missing something?
                        Also, most housing regulations exist for a reason. Eliminating them all leads to Pottervilles.
                        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                        - Goatnapper'96

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                        • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                          Housing regulations are local, not federal. Am I missing something?
                          You suffer from common sense and basic reasoning skills.

                          Meanwhile, Trump promises to export cat-eating Haitians to Venezuela.

                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            You suffer from common sense and basic reasoning skills.

                            Meanwhile, Trump promises to export cat-eating Haitians to Venezuela.

                            The only reason they're in Springfield is because they couldn't get past immigration into Venezuela. And now Trump wants to give them exactly what they want? Unacceptable.
                            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                            - Goatnapper'96

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                            • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                              Also, most housing regulations exist for a reason. Eliminating them all leads to Pottervilles.
                              Exactly. They are there so we and our cats don't die in burning infernos, or our kids don't suffer from chemicals in their air or water, or at least stuff works when you plug it into the wall. I finished a basement this past year.
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                                You suffer from common sense and basic reasoning skills.

                                Meanwhile, Trump promises to export cat-eating Haitians to Venezuela.

                                Thank you. I thought I was going crazy. But why even listen. He wouldn't do anything he says he will do. It's like that wall. Just poop he says.

                                And you again point out how he's losing it. Why is this not a bigger thing?
                                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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