President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Bo Diddley]

True. But these charges all had to go through a grand jury comprised of citizens just to get to this point.

I had no idea, so I just googled it. Looks like grand juries don't need to be unanimous. I really have little idea how they work.

[BlueK]

I had no idea, so I just googled it. Looks like grand juries don't need to be unanimous. I really have little idea how they work.

I have been on a grand jury before. Given that the standard is probable cause and not beyond a reasonable doubt, I think it's unlikely that it wasn't unanimous, especially for a jury from DC.

[falafel]

LOL it's actually not the reality that 'almost half the country voted for him.'

Yeah, but millions and millions and millions did. Just need ONE maga a-hole to lie and say he or she would be impartial.

[Pelado]

Yeah, but millions and millions and millions did. Just need ONE maga a-hole to lie and say he or she would be impartial.

As if anyone who likes Trump would ever lie.

[frank ryan]

70 percent of Americans do believe Biden won. That is terrifying, and does not inspire confidence in the leadership or rank and file of that party.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...atio-rcna80917

[Commando]

70 percent of Americans do believe Biden won. That is terrifying, and does not inspire confidence in the leadership or rank and file of that party.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...atio-rcna80917

That kind of belies the reality and seriousness of Trump's crimes. He has completely undermined our democracy in a way that Putin couldn't have orchestrated better. That is serious.

[Jeff Lebowski]

70 percent of Americans do believe Biden won. That is terrifying, and does not inspire confidence in the leadership or rank and file of that party.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...atio-rcna80917

That is not an accurate summary of the article. Even if you fix your typo.

[frank ryan]

That is not an accurate summary of the article. Even if you fix your typo.

I'd love to hear your more generous interpretation.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'd love to hear your more generous interpretation.

You said, "70 percent of Americans do believe Biden won. " That would be a great thing, wouldn't it?

What the article actually said (from the title):

NBC News poll: Nearly 70% of GOP voters stand behind Trump amid indictment and investigations
But large majorities of Americans sour on a Trump v. Biden rematch in 2024.

It says that 70% of REPUBLICANS "support" Trump in spite of the indictments. But only 46% would vote for him over the other candidates.

I can't find anything in the article about opinion on trump's election fraud claims.

[frank ryan]

You said, "70 percent of Americans do believe Biden won. " That would be a great thing, wouldn't it?

What the article actually said (from the title):



It says that 70% of REPUBLICANS "support" Trump in spite of the indictments. But only 46% would vote for him over the other candidates.

I can't find anything in the article about opinion on trump's election fraud claims.

I see what you mean. This article provides mare clarity.

I meant republicans. I am thinking you you figured that out.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/08/03/p...ate/index.html


"The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest."

[Jeff Lebowski]

Not that I don't do the same, but your response was a bit terse man.

I meant republicans. I am thinking you you figured that out.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/08/03/p...ate/index.html


"The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest."

Thank you for linking the right article this time.

Just as concerning is the fact that Biden is only pulling in 41% of the vote. How on earth can you not be destroying Trump at this point? Terrible candidate.

[frank ryan]

Thank you for linking the right article this time.

Just as concerning is the fact that Biden is only pulling in 41% of the vote. How on earth can you not be destroying Trump at this point? Terrible candidate.

I don't know. Trump should have long ago been abandoned. It is time for Americans to stop scoffing at the notion we could ever fall into a dictatorship when it's a clear and present risk. I'd vote for a reanimated corse or inanimate object before I'd vote for Trump.

I really don't think Biden is terrible, especially compared to Trump.

Im not sure any Democratic candidate would appeal to republicans. Would you be jazzed to vote for Obama? I would be? How about Hillary?

[falafel]

I don't know. Trump should have long ago been abandoned. It is time for Americans to stop scoffing at the notion we could ever fall into a dictatorship when it's a clear and present risk. I'd vote for a reanimated corse or inanimate object before I'd vote for Trump.

I really don't think Biden is terrible, especially compared to Trump.

Im not sure any Democratic candidate would appeal to republicans. Would you be jazzed to vote for Obama? I would be? How about Hillary?

Not the nicest way to describe Biden, but I tend to agree with you.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I don't know. Trump should have long ago been abandoned. It is time for Americans to stop scoffing at the notion we could ever fall into a dictatorship when it's a clear and present risk. I'd vote for a reanimated corse or inanimate object before I'd vote for Trump.

I really don't think Biden is terrible, especially compared to Trump.

Well right now 41% of americans support Trump and 41% support Biden. Biden isn't a terrible person, he is a terrible candidate.

Im not sure any Democratic candidate would appeal to republicans. Would you be jazzed to vote for Obama? I would be? How about Hillary?

Forget finding a democrat that appeals to the republicans. That is the wrong strategy. It is the independents that matter.

[Commando]

Forget finding a democrat that appeals to the republicans. That is the wrong strategy. It is the independents that matter.

This is why I am very not stressed out about the prospect of another Trump presidency. Only the crazies are left on team Trump.