President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[imanihonjin]

Also, LOL @ you saying that we have no legitimate policy reasons for disliking Trump. What the fuck are you smoking?

Reread my post.

[imanihonjin]

I've stated hundred of policy reasons over the last three years. Please.

Okay so back to the number of votes you are concerned about since that appears to be the litmus test for whether we should be concerned with the legitimacy of elections.

[Commando]

Reread my post.

"I can't stand the man and, unlike you, BlueK and Frank, I can articulate actual legitimate policy reasons why I can't stand the man rather than flail about bitching about the direction Trump farts in."


You don't want to get me started. It's not that I can't articulate them, it's just that I get paid to brief arguments and not by you or Mr. Dude. And I think I've spent quite enough angst and energy doing that in this forum in the past.

Suffice it to say he's a brain dead, anti-humanitarian, non-critical thinking nightmare. This is the bullshit that has kept me up at night this week ready to that none of you thought twice about:


https://www.justice.gov/file/1187856/download

[Uncle Ted]

The real premise of my argument is that elected officials of any party should care if foreigners are fucking with our election process.

I'm not here to defend democrats or republicans. I hate them both most of the time. That's why I vote Libertarian so much. That doesn't mean I think Congress should never do anything. If one side or the other I think is working toward something I think is correct then the rational choice is to support it. Most of the time over the last few decades I've voted for many more Republicans than democrats when I have voted for one or the other. Today the Republican party under Trump isn't even remotely like the one I used to vote for back then, and I don't see it coming back to that probably for a long time, at least not until they take a butt whooping at the polls.

But right now you seem to just want to have a petty partisan bullshit argument about whether dems really care sincerely enough or not. Maybe it's as crass for you as not caring because you think the foreign influence helps the party you care about more. If that's true you're just proving my case for why both major parties suck.

Or maybe you really don't think it's a problem or any kind of actual threat whatsoever. Fair enough if that's honestly your view, I guess, as much as I think the evidence doesn't support it.

Yes! You voted for Johnson too?

Yes, elected officials of any party should care about anybody f*cking around with our election process... especially when it comes to those commies at Google and FaceBook:

Also, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNvgl38TLvI

[imanihonjin]

"I can't stand the man and, unlike you, BlueK and Frank, I can articulate actual legitimate policy reasons why I can't stand the man rather than flail about bitching about the direction Trump farts in."


You don't want to get me started. It's not that I can't articulate them, it's just that I get paid to brief arguments and not by you or Mr. Dude. And I think I've spent quite enough angst and energy doing that in this forum in the past.

Suffice it to say he's a brain dead, anti-humanitarian, non-critical thinking nightmare. This is the bullshit that has kept me up at night this week ready to that none of you thought twice about:


https://www.justice.gov/file/1187856/download

Congrats?

[Commando]

Congrats?

Thanks. Talk to me about policy so I can thrash you around like a fucking rag doll.

[BlueK]

Okay so back to the number of votes you are concerned about since that appears to be the litmus test for whether we should be concerned with the legitimacy of elections.

This started with my post where I said I would like Congress to address what I think are legitimate concerns about whether anyone is going to be able to hack into the voting system. That's it. Wapiti I think made the valid observation that the social media platforms are starting to police themselves better to limit fake and foreign accounts from injecting their propoganda like viruses, which naive users in the past would disseminate for them. I hope the populace is wising up to that, and I think they are. That's encouraging.

The current proposals which Mitch McConnell is blocking contain a little funding to help states increase the security of their voting systems and provide the means to have back up paper ballots. these are measures many Republicans until very recently were calling for. Some still are. My original post was about that, but I ended up obliging you down your many side arguments.

We can't prove exactly how many people changed their minds over misinformation. You're smart enough to know that. Does it mean we should not do anything and just assume it's ok not to take measures to ensure actual hacking and vote changing doesn't happen? You know the Russians and Chinese, Iranians, and God knows who else would want to. Or maybe you don't, I don't know. I'd prefer our government tried to get ahead of it rather than react to it afterwards. You seem to recognize a huge threat within our borders but not from without. So be it. Have a nice day, man.

[BlueK]

Yes! You voted for Johnson too?

Yes, elected officials of any party should care about anybody f*cking around with our election process... especially when it comes to those commies at Google and FaceBook:

Also, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNvgl38TLvI

I did vote for Johnson even though a couple of times I saw him interviewed he came across as possibly being high on weed. Oh well. I am glad the LP broke their record for all previous elections. That speaks to how awful both major candidates were.

[imanihonjin]

Thanks. Talk to me about policy so I can thrash you around like a fucking rag doll.

You confuse me. I thought you just said you didn't have time for that because you had to write briefs for the man.

[Commando]

You confuse me.

Pretty sure I found you this way.

[imanihonjin]

We can't prove exactly how many people changed their minds over misinformation. You're smart enough to know that. Does it mean we should not do anything? You seem to recognize a huge threat within our borders but not from without. So be it. Have a nice day, man.

But you asked me to do the same thing to provide legitimacy to my argument and then you bow out of having to do the same thing to provide legitimacy to yours. I agree with you, theoretically, security concerns are an issue. You stated earlier that you supported reasonable voter ID laws and then have shown that that is not really the case at all.

More than anything I began this debate with you because I rejected the notion that 90% of dems were just concerned with election legitimacy. You could have just said, yeah that was hyperbole and moved on.

[imanihonjin]

Pretty sure I found you this way.

No need to perpetuate the problem by contradicting yourself within 10 minutes.

[Commando]

No need to perpetuate the problem by contradicting yourself within 10 minutes.

Not here to debate you- just to let you know you have nothing in the quiver. So it's rich that you would accuse anybody here of not having any legitimate policy concerns or cast doubt on their ability to articulate them.

[imanihonjin]

Not here to debate you- just to let you know you have nothing in the quiver. So it's rich that you would accuse anybody here of not having any legitimate policy concerns or cast doubt on their ability to articulate them.

Sorry man, that lack of sleep must affect your ability to catch hyperbole. If I remember (I make no promises) I will let you know when I am using hyperbole in the future, especially when it concerns you, so that you don't feel badly about yourself.

[imanihonjin]

Not here to debate you- just to let you know you have nothing in the quiver. So it's rich that you would accuse anybody here of not having any legitimate policy concerns or cast doubt on their ability to articulate them.

Also, you seem to fail to grasp that the policies that I was stating were policies calling out Trump not supporting him. I never stated that you did not have legitimate policy concerns, that would be silly given that I have my own.

Get some sleep, man.