President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[imanihonjin]

the state bending over backwards to try to solve the issue of having created a barrier in the first place? LOL.

Eh? Wasn't this whole conversation about ensuring the legitimacy of our elections?

[frank ryan]

In ND most of the natives there actually have drivers licenses. But many, because they live on the reservation just didn't have a physical address on file which is what was required to get the type of voter id the new law said they had to have. And PO box addresses in the nearest town which most used didn't satisfy the requirement. There are reasonable eligibility and id requirements, and there are others that don't pass the smell test when it comes to determining if their main purpose is really about security or if it's really just designed to make it much harder than it needs to be for someone to vote.

You’re engaging in a fool’s errand trying to dialogue with that fella.

[imanihonjin]

I’m surprised Ted is unaware of how things are done on tribal lands. They don’t have physical addresses. They haven’t needed it. It’s a power grab for sure.

You realize that if they didn't have a physical address their were mechanisms in place to provide one to them for free, right? All they had to do was call the 911 County Coordinator and describe their address and the County Coordinator would issue them a physical address to them in under an hour. The Coordinator would also send them an official letter that they could take with them to vote and it would satisfy the requirement.

[imanihonjin]

You’re engaging in a fool’s errand trying to dialogue with that fella.

Yeah, facts are sticky things.

[BlueK]

Eh? Wasn't this whole conversation about ensuring the legitimacy of our elections?

what was illegitimate about what was happening in North Dakota? Was there evidence of non-citizens trying to vote?

[imanihonjin]

what was illegitimate about what was happening in North Dakota? Was there evidence of non-citizens trying to vote?

Can you produce evidence of a single vote being swayed by Russian interference of the 2016 presidential election that you have been going on and on about?

Edit: Also, you already conceded that you supported voter ID laws for security. Are you backtracking on that now?

[Commando]

Can you produce evidence of a single vote being swayed by Russian interference of the 2016 presidential election that you have been going on and on about?

Edit: Also, you already conceded that you supported voter ID laws for security. Are you backtracking on that now?

Probably you.

[BlueK]

LOL!


So you are for reasonable voter ID laws, except for when they are reasonable.

Two people can disagree on what is reasonable. According to the article I posted: in this case, a new law that wouldn't accept a PO address from a Native American who lives on the reservation and doesn't have a residential street address, and who local election officials in the past have always been able to verify actually lives there, which then causes the tribal authority considerable expense to work with the Bureau of Indian Affairs to create street addresses for everyone and an id system so they can issue them to their members so they could meet the state's easy requirements? Yeah, I don't think it sounds that reasonable in this case.

[imanihonjin]

Probably you.

Nice try. Didn't vote for Trump and won't in 2020 either. I can't stand the man and, unlike you, BlueK and Frank, I can articulate actual legitimate policy reasons why I can't stand the man rather than flail about bitching about the direction Trump farts in.

[Commando]

Nice try. Didn't vote for Trump and won't in 2020 either. I can't stand the man and, unlike you, BlueK and Frank, I can articulate actual legitimate policy reasons why I can't stand the man rather than flail about bitching about the direction Trump farts in.

You don't get it. That's ok.

[Uncle Ted]

Can you produce evidence of a single vote being swayed by Russian interference of the 2016 presidential election that you have been going on and on about?

Edit: Also, you already conceded that you supported voter ID laws for security. Are you backtracking on that now?

The Ruskies didn't get to me! I still voted for Johnson.

[imanihonjin]

Two people can disagree on what is reasonable. According to the article I posted: in this case, a new law that wouldn't accept a PO address from a Native American who lives on the reservation and doesn't have a residential street address, and who local election officials in the past have always been able to verify actually lives there, which then causes the tribal authority considerable expense to work with the Bureau of Indian Affairs to create street addresses for everyone and an id system so they can issue them to their members so they could meet the state's easy requirements? Yeah, I don't think it sounds that reasonable in this case.

False. As I mention above, the individual could call the 911 County Coordinator and they would provide a physical address to anyone who didn't previously have one within an hour and at no expense to the individual or the tribe.

[imanihonjin]

You don't get it. That's ok.

Correct. I don't get the nuance you are aiming for.

[BlueK]

Nice try. Didn't vote for Trump and won't in 2020 either. I can't stand the man and, unlike you, BlueK and Frank, I can articulate actual legitimate policy reasons why I can't stand the man rather than flail about bitching about the direction Trump farts in.

I've stated hundred of policy reasons over the last three years. Please.

[Commando]

Correct. I don't get the nuance you are aiming for.

Also, LOL @ you saying that we have no legitimate policy reasons for disliking Trump. What the fuck are you smoking? There are literally brand new policies rolled out by Trump every week that are abhorrent, anti-social, and illegal. His physical appearance is enough to want to assassinate him, yes, but he is the absolute worst thing to ever happen to U.S. policymaking.