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  • Goatnapper'96
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10920

    #7561
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Here is the deal on Sanders: it seems to me that the job of a press secretary is to speak for the president - to do the very best you can to accurately represent his positions, plans, etc. It is similar to an attorney representing the interests of a client. It is also a very important and necessary position. Going after her seems crazy to me. If you don't like the message, go after the source. Don't shoot the messenger.

    MBN, you are arguing that the problem is her tactics. 99% of the reaction I am seeing is simply based on the fact that she is a spokesperson for Trump, whom people hate.

    This is kind of polarization drives me crazy. Are we really going to have republican-only and democrat-only restaurants? Would it really kill someone to have to serve her a meal? Political discourse is at an all-time low.
    It has been moving in this direction for some time. Trump is the symptom of our decaying discourse, not the cause. Clearly, he has introduced new lows but stay tuned where the next person takes us. We are unable to have rational discussions with people with whom we disagree. I think it is because to many this is a religion with both the fervor of testimony of having it right and the concern of the cataclysmic end if one's way is not adopted.

    What I mean to say is Fox News is really to blame for it all.
    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
    -General George S. Patton

    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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    • bluegoose
      7th round draft pick
      • Nov 2008
      • 4110

      #7562
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Here is the deal on Sanders: it seems to me that the job of a press secretary is to speak for the president ......
      She hasn't held a press briefing for 7 days now. I'm not sure she really is doing her job at all based on the job description.

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      • Commando
        Explosivo
        • Feb 2009
        • 20748

        #7563
        Originally posted by bluegoose View Post
        She hasn't held a press briefing for 7 days now. I'm not sure she really is doing her job at all based on the job description.
        If her boss doesn't do his job, why should she?
        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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        • creekster
          It is NOT a monkey!
          • Nov 2008
          • 22661

          #7564
          Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
          It has been moving in this direction for some time. Trump is the symptom of our decaying discourse, not the cause. Clearly, he has introduced new lows but stay tuned where the next person takes us. We are unable to have rational discussions with people with whom we disagree. I think it is because to many this is a religion with both the fervor of testimony of having it right and the concern of the cataclysmic end if one's way is not adopted.
          I note that Maxine Waters has been this nutty for a long time. She's just getting more national press because this brand of nuttiness is becoming more acceptable and even desirable.
          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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          • myboynoah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 21719

            #7565
            Originally posted by creekster View Post
            I note that Maxine Waters has been this nutty for a long time. She's just getting more national press because this brand of nuttiness is becoming more acceptable and even desirable.
            For sure. Fight nutty with nutty.
            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • Uncle Ted
              The Big 12 money shot.
              • Apr 2010
              • 28853

              #7566
              Originally posted by creekster View Post
              I note that Maxine Waters has been this nutty for a long time. She's just getting more national press because this brand of nuttiness is becoming more acceptable and even desirable.
              It is dems like Maxine Waters that will give Drumpf a second term... I hope he sends her a christmas card.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • BlueK
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 7169

                #7567
                Originally posted by creekster View Post
                I note that Maxine Waters has been this nutty for a long time. She's just getting more national press because this brand of nuttiness is becoming more acceptable and even desirable.
                I think it's actually because we've never had a president this out of the norm before, so her brand of nuttiness doesn't look that nutty when it's applied to him.

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #7568
                  Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                  I think it's actually because we've never had a president this out of the norm before, so her brand of nuttiness doesn't look that nutty when it's applied to him.
                  I beg to differ. She's the same stable genius she has always been.
                  Last edited by myboynoah; 06-25-2018, 11:35 PM.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • cowboy
                    Homer Weems
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5740

                    #7569
                    Political discourse is constantly hitting new lows. I'm not an attorney, but isn't MW advocating illegal harassment? If so, that's the first time I can think of that an elected official advocated breaking the law to express dissent against someone who votes or works for the opposing party. What the hell happened to Obama's "There are no red states or blue states"? He obviously didn't mean it, and was no model for civil discourse, but he looks like Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil compared the clowns running the circus today.
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                    October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
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                    • old_gregg
                      scaly man fish
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 16915

                      #7570
                      Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                      If so, that's the first time I can think of that an elected official advocated breaking the law to express dissent against someone who votes or works for the opposing party..
                      trump openly advocated for assault against protestors at his campaign stops
                      Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                      • Pelado
                        Bald not naked
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21105

                        #7571
                        Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                        trump openly advocated for assault against protestors at his campaign stops
                        Doesn't qualify - cowboy said "elected official" and Drumpf hadn't been elected yet.
                        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                        - Goatnapper'96

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                        • old_gregg
                          scaly man fish
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 16915

                          #7572
                          Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                          Doesn't qualify - cowboy said "elected official" and Drumpf hadn't been elected yet.
                          damn, lawyered
                          Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                          • falafel
                            loves to talk on things
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 37910

                            #7573
                            Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                            damn, lawyered
                            by an accountant.
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                            Dig your own grave, and save!

                            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • frank ryan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12306

                              #7574
                              Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                              Political discourse is constantly hitting new lows. I'm not an attorney, but isn't MW advocating illegal harassment? If so, that's the first time I can think of that an elected official advocated breaking the law to express dissent against someone who votes or works for the opposing party. What the hell happened to Obama's "There are no red states or blue states"? He obviously didn't mean it, and was no model for civil discourse, but he looks like Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil compared the clowns running the circus today.
                              What did Obama do besides support legislation that wasn’t popular with conservatives? Also, let’s not forget McConnel said his goal was to do what he needed to make Obama a term president.

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                              • falafel
                                loves to talk on things
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 37910

                                #7575
                                Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                                What did Obama do besides support legislation that wasn’t popular with conservatives? Also, let’s not forget McConnel said his goal was to do what he needed to make Obama a term president.
                                Well, he basically said its my way or the highway on his pet legislation. He talked about working together, but when it came right down to it, he was willing to push legislation on party line votes.
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

                                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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