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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostIf the wall sends a message to the parents of this kids to stop putting them in these dangerous situations then, by damn, we should build a symbolic wall. All of congress needs to pull their heads out and think of the children! Unless a clear message is sent indicating that you can't become a citizen of this country just jumping the boarder then the problem will continue.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostI certainly have no crystal ball. I think we need clear immigration standards, legislated, which are enforced consistently over time (non-selective enforcement leads to predictability and thus more effectively influences behavior). I also think that apart from very specific instances (which in my mind will be very rare and far between) we need to stop meddling in Latin American economies and governments. We also need to encourage economic stability by, say, continuing with NAFTA (or similar) and avoiding tariffs.
There is no easy answer of which I am aware. But by steady, non-interventionist, consistent policies we might be able to unwind wrongs of the past and improve border security.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostI believe we would have made a good first step in immigration reform had our president allowed that bipartisan group of legislators who sat in his office with him in front of the cameras and then came up with an actual compromise, if he had given it his approval the way he said he would. But no, he goes back and listens to the Kelly's and Miller's hanging out around him and basically went back and told those legislators to go to hell. That compromise probably would have passed both houses and been supported by a majority of Americans. That was a rare good faith effort by some influential members of Congress in that moment to get something constructive done. I think it's a shame the leadership in the executive branch to foster an environment in the country that is less, not more divisive, just doesn't seem to be at all what he wants. Is it too "apocalyptic" to be concerned about the direction this is going for the country?
Btw, you should take that apocalyptic stuff too personally. Think how much worse the insult could be. Poor Walter Sobchak was said to be my son today. That had to hurt.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by Maximus View PostI am sure there is no situation in which you would ever cross a border illegally to protect your family
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Originally posted by Maximus View PostI am sure there is no situation in which you would ever cross a border illegally to protect your family
The sh*thead parents: "Oh, I'll write our phone number on our six year olds t-shirt... he will be ok."
WTF you dumbasses... you have a phone? It can't be all that bad, can it?Last edited by Uncle Ted; 06-20-2018, 02:35 PM."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostIn my mission we had two countries, one of which had slightly stricter rules about living there legally than the other. In one you didn't have to do anything to be there because it was all taken care of for you by the Church. For those two years you were good. In the other it wasn't that hard to comply, but there was one additional step. You were supposed to report to the local police station when you got transferred into a new city. Not that big of a deal or really all that inconvenient. But how many elders actually did it? Hardly any."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by creekster View PostMaybe. But he didn't create the problem, even though it is clear he hasn't solved it, either.
Btw, you should take that apocalyptic stuff too personally. Think how much worse the insult could be. Poor Walter Sobchak was said to be my son today. That had to hurt."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostThere is no situation I would send my kids alone and by themselves (like the parents of about 10,000 kids did) to illegally cross (multiple) borders... that is a pure dumbass thing to do. The parents of these kids must have sh*t for brains.
The sh*thead parents: "Oh, I'll write our phone number on our six year olds t-shirt... he will be ok."
WTF you dumbasses... you have a phone? It can't be all that bad, can it?"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Maximus View PostSo is everyone ok with families (IE children still in jail) being detained for months until their case is heard?PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by Maximus View PostSo is everyone ok with families (IE children still in jail) being detained for months until their case is heard?Last edited by Uncle Ted; 06-20-2018, 02:58 PM."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by creekster View PostOk with it? Meaning what? Are you suggesting that illegal entry with a child should be a get out of jail card?
It's a misdemeanor that isn't even typically prosecuted- let alone punished with jail. DHS is usually the one detaining asylum seekers for the duration of their case. Under Obama entire families were jailed for years. If a person doesn't have an asylum case they are given an expedited removal with advisals that future unlawful entries after the removal constitutes a felony and they could face 30 to 180 days in federal prison (typically).
So yes. Since they are not being charged with a crime I would like an explanation why they are in jail."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Commando View PostIt's a misdemeanor that isn't even typically prosecuted- let alone punished with jail. DHS is usually the one detaining asylum seekers for the duration of their case. Under Obama entire families were jailed for years. If a person doesn't have an asylum case they are given an expedited removal with advisals that future unlawful entries after the removal constitutes a felony and they could face 30 to 180 days in federal prison (typically).
So yes. Since they are not being charged with a crime I would like an explanation why they are in jail.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by creekster View PostOk with it? Meaning what? Are you suggesting that illegal entry with a child should be a get out of jail card?
Frank, Max Commando, BK: How many have these kids have y'all personally adopted now? Given y'all are the bleeding heart types I am guessing at least 20 each."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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