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And here we go. Trump has zero interest in signing any kind of immigration deal that even attempts to fix anything. His way or the highway. I would wish the congress had enough courage to pass it and stick on his desk so he'd have to actually veto it though.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostWhat’s is going take for Ted, Walt and Shaka to admit Trump is a disaster?
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostWell, you're whining isn't helping. TDS is strong in you.Last edited by frank ryan; 06-15-2018, 01:01 PM.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostDoesn’t mean much coming from someone who found his rhetoric appealing. And if you base your opinion on me “whining” about someone, that’s some JR high level childishness, that demonstrates a lack of intellect.
I do not agree with every Trump action and I think what's happening with immigration at the moment isn't smart. However, I work in the business world and I recognize his tactics. Similar tactics play out in board rooms, conference rooms, and over the phone every day. Sure Trump's a blowhard but that's not an uncommon trait in the business world.
Also your personal insult at the end is lame. Grow up dude.
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostIt probably should. Largely because of you this thread is an echo chamber. Ideas can't be debated because you and BlueK to a lesser extent, simply can't fathom how someone's opinion might differ from your own. Instead you view every Trump action through the worst possible lens and do your Red Riding Hood routine. The fable teaches us that those who repeatedly cry wolf are tuned out.
I do not agree with every Trump action and I think what's happening with immigration at the moment isn't smart. However, I work in the business world and I recognize his tactics. Similar tactics play out in board rooms, conference rooms, and over the phone every day. Sure Trump's a blowhard but that's not an uncommon trait in the business world.
Also your personal insult at the end is lame. Grow up dude.
I don’t know anybody who likes his rhetoric but I know people who don’t like the current lack of immigration policy."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostIt probably should. Largely because of you this thread is an echo chamber. Ideas can't be debated because you and BlueK to a lesser extent, simply can't fathom how someone's opinion might differ from your own. Instead you view every Trump action through the worst possible lens and do your Red Riding Hood routine. The fable teaches us that those who repeatedly cry wolf are tuned out.
I do not agree with every Trump action and I think what's happening with immigration at the moment isn't smart. However, I work in the business world and I recognize his tactics. Similar tactics play out in board rooms, conference rooms, and over the phone every day. Sure Trump's a blowhard but that's not an uncommon trait in the business world.
Also your personal insult at the end is lame. Grow up dude.
More often than not I ignore you. You’re not one to talk about insults and claim a high ground. Youve done that in several exchanges you have had with me. Your last two posts were insulting. I’m sick of that and your gaslighting. And to the specific insult, it is not a sign of wisdom to base your view of the president on whether or not someone you hate on the internet doesn’t like him.
As to the crying wolf, Trump hasn’t been absolved of any of the Russia stuff, in fact as the investigation moves along it appears more likely that at at minimum members of his camp worked, or least tried their damnedest to, with the Russians.
I’m not preventing you from making a logical case why your guy isn’t such a bad president. In the spirit of discourse, I know you liked Bears Ears and the Supreme Court but I know of no other reasons you have for defending himLast edited by frank ryan; 06-15-2018, 03:26 PM.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostIn some parallel universe this may be an echochamber, but that certainly isn’t the case here.
More often than not I ignore you. You’re not one to talk about insults and claim a high ground. Youve done that in several exchanges you have had with me. Your last two posts were insulting. I’m sick of that and your gaslighting. And to the specific insult, it is not a sign of wisdom to base your view of the president on whether or not someone you hate on the internet doesn’t like him.
I’m not preventing you from making a logical case why your guy isn’t such a bad president. In the spirit of discourse, I know you liked Bears Ears and the Supreme Court but I know of no other reasons you have for defending him
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostInteresting thought. No it's not smart.
The process may be unfair and unjust, something that at first glance appears to be so, but as I read the WaPo article on it, it sounds much more complex than is playing out on social media. The hue and cry which automatically erupts over any immigration policy or procedure makes it easy to tune the entire discussion out. I have a good friend, whom I know in person, but who is outraged at everything, if it has any link to 45. I remember reading her state she believed in open borders just like Canada. Well, news alert, Canada doesn't have open borders. It doesn't neighbor any country with severe economic catastrophes, so people aren't able to stream across the border.
The point is everybody complains about our mish-mash of immigration rules, but the same complainers would be surprised some of the rules which various presidents have wanted to implement are similar to that of neighbors or other nations. The only prevailing thread is people want to be unhappy and want to complain, without knowledge of all of the facts."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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